Part of the attraction of the Vallet Quartets is that you don't need
four lutenists to have a good time. Neither do you have to play all the
notes correctly; an overly sanitised version with all dissonances
polished away will make for a lot less interesting music. And it's
certainly not as bizarre as Besard. One should restrain oneself in the
editing process, ideally leaving options open for every possible
performance; after all, sometimes you need a little extra spice and at
other times you will want it more blandly.
David
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On 13 January 2018 at 17:41, Ron Andrico <[3]praelu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Rainer, if your object is to create a complete edition of
Vallet's lute
works, of course you should include the quartets. I hope you're
also
including all the psalm settings with variations from Regia
Pietas as
well.
As I recall there aren't that many misprints in Vallet's
quartets, and
passing dissonance in music for plucked strings was not written
to be
judged by a standard created by 20th- and 21st-century
musicologists.
This is what I posted ten days ago:
Dissonance in 16th- and 17th-century improvisational ensemble
music was
the norm rather than the exception. This statement can be
verified
simply by reading historical ensemble music with parts
intabulated for
lutes. For instance, one's first reaction in reading through
Besard's
lute duets (1603) and ensemble music (1617) is that he was a
complete
hack and didn't know the first thing about composing. But the
same
bountiful cross-relations and clashes can be found in duets
published
by Phalese (1552) all the way up to the quartets published by
Vallet
(1616). Sure, there were misprints and mistakes, but passing
dissonances were acceptable.
If you're interested in a good performance of Vallet's quartets,
the
best I've heard was by the quartet Delight in Disorder, which can
be
found on Google/youtube. This wonderful ensemble of four
lutenists
makes the music come to life in a way I have not heard before or
since. Most remarkable in their ensemble playing is the general
absence of irritating rolled chords - when they roll a chord
it's done
by all and on purpose.
RA
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:42 PM
To: Lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Vallet's quartets
Dear lute netters,
my Vallet editions has reached milestone 1. All pieces entered
and
proofread numerous times.
70% of the critical notes entered (a nightmare).
I wonder if it makes sense to add the quartets. As far as I know
there
was an edition published by Tree(?).
Anyway, I have played Vallet quartets only once in my life in
Mark
Wheelers flat in Muelheim 20 years ago.
The players were Mark (who seems to have disappeared), Stefan
from
Wuppertal, Kenneth Bee (still on the lute list?) and myselfe.
Now I have listened to one of the quartets in Fronimo.
It sounds VERY strange - lots of wrong notes.
In his article about the quartets Stan Buetens argued that they
sound
OK when played on lutes.
What do people say who have played the quartets?
Should I include them in my edition?
Rainer
PS
Playing music for 4 lutes was really fun :)
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