Hello Leonard and others,

This is a topic of great interest to me, as I have played mostly gut strings 
for 30 + years. There is nothing as beautiful as the sound of a gut strung lute 
tuned well. Some have tried oils, resins, even crazy glue with mixed 
effectiveness of making trebles last long. 

Of the few who responded, what they did not say is what pitch and string length 
they are using. In my experience that is the utmost important factor. 

If you want a g treble at a=440, you cannot exceed 59 cm in length. If you do, 
you can only expect short strong life. It does not help to use a smaller 
diameter treble, as lowering the tension does not help either. If you want a 
baroque lute treble of f a = 415, if you exceed 68 cm, you will experience 
failure and short string life. We certainly can use any synthetic string, 
nylon, carbon, nylgut, etc., but the properties of gut are that we must stay in 
the formula or we have treble string short life. Some argue that we “should” be 
able to string gut trebles at higher pitches than what gut is capable of, but 
experience has shown otherwise. Although we can get a synthetic treble at g = 
440 at let’s say 63 cm, we cannot with gut and that lute for instance should be 
at f, not g. 

My 67 cm. 11-course baroque lute is at f 415 at 67.5 , and a usual treble lasts 
me 3 months. Once, I had one that lasted 10 months with heavy playing!!  On my 
70.5 cm baroque lute, it only lasts a day or so unless I lower the pitch to e. 
Then if I do that, it lasts as long as the other lute. 

So, if you have a 63 cm lute and insist on a gut treble, the pitch should be f, 
not g at 440. Staying within the upper limits is the only way to use a gut 
treble. Some people record in gut in that configuration, but they can stop and 
change trebles as they fail!

Another factor is what kind of gut. Gamut now has beef gut trebles and they 
seem much stronger than sheep gut;  some say beef is not as sweet in sound, but 
I cannot tell the difference in appearance, sound, playability, or texture. For 
me, beef is my personal choice. 

Ed

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> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone come up with a technique to increase the life of gut trebles?  
> (besides switching to synthetics!) I get stray fibers very shortly after 
> installing one—still playable but the tone and intonation suffer.
> 
> Thanks!
> Leonard Williams
> 
> 
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