Dear G. I'd love to know about the evidence about different usages for the vihuela. Best wishes Antonio __________________________________________________________________
From: G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> To: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, 22 January 2018, 2:40 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles) I think, that one should be careful not to generalize. Like today (where some even play with singles on ALL courses), there were different uses also in the olden days. And look at the later 6 string guitar, which even had double strung chanterelles for a period in time. G. On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Antonio Corona <[1][1]abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Edward, Despite what the pegs on the vihuelas suggest, I've found plenty of evidence that it was strung with a single first. We need to review our ideas on the subject of vihuela stringing ... Best wishes Antonio ____________________________________________________________ ______ From: Edward Martin <[2][2]edvihuel...@gmail.com> To: lute net <[3][3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2018, 14:56 Subject: [LUTE] Double first courses (chanterelles) Dear Collective wisdom, When did double first courses cease to exist on renaissance lutes? We know from early on, and from the middle ages, they were double strung on every course, including the treble. In terms of iconographical evidence, I looked at the Caravaggio "Lute Player", an the subject (he or she) is playing a 6 course lute, double strung throughout, including the treble, and there are 6 pegs on the upper and lower side of the peg box. Caravaggio's birth- death dates are 1571à ¢1610. So, perhaps his subject had an old fashioned lute for the time, or perhaps double-strung first courses lasted longer than we may think. Vihuelas also her double strung in the first courses, at least the instruments show 12 pegs for the 6-course vihuela. I tried to look up some information to answer my questions, but I could not find any in the sources I used. So, my questions are: 1. When did the double first courses stop, or go out of vogue? Was it universal, or did some countries / nationalities stop the practice earlier or later than others.? Did Francesco use a double first course? 2. Why did the double chanterelle stop? We know that later, lutes only had pegs and pegboxes to accommodate a single treble. 3. What evidence is there to support the "when and why" of this practice? 4. If a double chanterelle was the norm for a great part of the renaissance, why is it that it is so infrequently that we see a modern player doing this practice? Thanks in advance. ed -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1][4][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[6]abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. mailto:[7]edvihuel...@gmail.com 3. mailto:[8]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. mailto:edvihuel...@gmail.com 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. mailto:abcor...@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:edvihuel...@gmail.com 8. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html