Now if we could just get people to start playing double strung theorboes and attiorbatos-- ya that would make me so happy.
Sterling Price Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Bruno Cognyl-Fournier <[email protected]> Date: 1/22/18 8:22 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Antonio Corona <[email protected]> Cc: Edward Martin <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles) Interesting to note however that the ancestor of the european lute, ie the arabic Oud, has had double chanterelles all throughout history... in fact its the lowest string which sometimes is single. Bruno 2018-01-22 3:29 GMT-05:00 Antonio Corona <[1][email protected]>: Dear Edward, Despite what the pegs on the vihuelas suggest, I've found plenty of evidence that it was strung with a single first. We need to review our ideas on the subject of vihuela stringing ... Best wishes Antonio ____________________________________________________________ ______ From: Edward Martin <[2][email protected]> To: lute net <[3][email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2018, 14:56 Subject: [LUTE] Double first courses (chanterelles) Dear Collective wisdom, When did double first courses cease to exist on renaissance lutes? We know from early on, and from the middle ages, they were double strung on every course, including the treble. In terms of iconographical evidence, I looked at the Caravaggio "Lute Player", an the subject (he or she) is playing a 6 course lute, double strung throughout, including the treble, and there are 6 pegs on the upper and lower side of the peg box. Caravaggio's birth- death dates are 1571à ¢1610. So, perhaps his subject had an old fashioned lute for the time, or perhaps double-strung first courses lasted longer than we may think. Vihuelas also her double strung in the first courses, at least the instruments show 12 pegs for the 6-course vihuela. I tried to look up some information to answer my questions, but I could not find any in the sources I used. So, my questions are: 1. When did the double first courses stop, or go out of vogue? Was it universal, or did some countries / nationalities stop the practice earlier or later than others.? Did Francesco use a double first course? 2. Why did the double chanterelle stop? We know that later, lutes only had pegs and pegboxes to accommodate a single treble. 3. What evidence is there to support the "when and why" of this practice? 4. If a double chanterelle was the norm for a great part of the renaissance, why is it that it is so infrequently that we see a modern player doing this practice? Thanks in advance. ed -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
