Am 02.02.2018 um 19:04 schrieb Alain Veylit:
I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site
alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given
its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources
yes it's true, the table "Available Manuscripts" gets more and more
complicated, as now there are more than 400 manuscripts.
But I fear, an own page for that still would be very/too? complicated.
As soon as I have time for it, I will try to put the manuscripts in a
sidebar with only showing the manuscripts of one country (or first
And it also would be a good thing to have the manuscript table, that is
But to add this, I also will need some time.
The easiest way to find pieces or manuscripts often is to use the
Firstly got to "Manuscripts", the click on "Show Filters"
There you can search for
- the title you are looking for e.g. "Son Adieu" or "Son Ad"
- the manuscript that you are looking for via the beginning of the
signature e.g. "GB-Cf"
- or for a certain Composer etc.
Normally you can use the beginning of the phrase, or even a part within
a word, so f.i. "dieu" also will show the searched piece on place 9 (17
The filters normally are case-sensitive!
The manuscripts always use the RISM signatures, that have the country
first (in this case GB), then a hyphen, and after it the city (C for
Cambridge) and then the short signature for the museum: Fitzwilliam
Museum = fm; so that it is complete: GB-Cfm
After that Peter and me always use a shortened number of the complete
signature. The complete signature or title will be given at the
beginning of a manuscript or print.
The prints have normally the composer, often shortened, and a shortened
title of it; or a year: e.g. Dowland-Var for Robert Dowland: Varietie of
I think it is necessary to play around with the site some time to
understand, how everything works!
But after some exercise nearly everything can be found quite swiftly!
Even sometimes new concordances can be found by filtering the incipits!
.. and if someone finds the site too complicated, he is invited to
write to me, and I will see, if I can help or if it is possible to make
it easier (if I have the time to do)!
On 02/02/2018 02:55 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
We do learn at all ages indeed ;-)!
Au passage, thank you Alain for all your hard work so useful to all of us !
Le 2 févr. 2018 à 11:10, G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit :
I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter
(found on Alain's site). The fact that some of the pieces have
concordances in both Besard (1603) and Varietie (1610), also exclude
By the way, Alain, you should look at the concordances by Peter Steur
to update those on the Fandango Cherbury page, where the ms. is not too
unreadable. Very nice work, thanks Alain!
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:25 AM, Alain Veylit
Just a couple of points of recent history: back some 10 or 15 years
ago, Joel Dugot from the French lute society
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