Hi Leonard,

This seems to be a very convoluted and hit and miss method to me. Maybe it would be good to get back to basics (which is what you are doing when checking the major thirds between the fifth and third courses of your lute).

With 1/4 comma meantone you are looking to have 8 pure, beat-less major thirds (C-E, for example). These are narrower than equal temperament thirds which can sound pretty awful once you get used to the purity of major thirds. It is not always easy to hear the beats on a lute (far less evident than with the metal strings and clear harmonics of a harpsichord, for example) so it is generally advised to set the frets based on calculations for your string length. You can use a calculator such as the one provided online by Lauri Niskanen which will give you the distances between the nut and the various frets. All you need to do is enter the string length of your lute and place your frets accordingly. Here's the link:

https://www.niskanenlutes.com/index.php?p=frets

Once you've done that you will need to see if you require extra frets (tastini) for notes that would not be in tune without them (such as the first position F# on the 4th course of a lute in g'). Mean tone distinguishes between enharmonic notes, (so D# will be lower than Eb flat, for example) and you can't have both at the same time on the lute and you will need to adjust the position of certain frets according to the piece you are playing. Once your frets are set, I would suggest tuning an a' from a tuning fork or electronic tuner and then tuning the other courses by ear from that by using octaves. If you do not feel comfortable tuning by ear then use the setting on your tuner to get 1/4 comma mean-tone with an Eb as you will be playing music in flat keys. The final adjustments really do need to be made by ear, however good your tuner and you can check the major thirds of the piece you are playing.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Matthew

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On 08/03/2018 02:17, Leonard Williams wrote:
Here’s a tuning method I’ve been experimenting with, and I’m wondering about 
others’ related experiences.  My 8 course is nominally in g (i.e., g treble), 
1/4 comma meantone. But - since most of the music I play is in flat keys, I set 
my Peterson tuner for an instrument in F instead of C.  Thus when I tune the g, 
the readout is d, etc.  I’ve also found that using a chord consisting of fret d 
on 3rd, e on 4th, and f on fifth is helpful in refining the tuning and those 
frets.
        Any similar experiences?

Best to all,
Leonard Williams




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