Eloquently said Ron, as always! G.
tor. 1. aug. 2019 kl. 21.28 skrev Ron Andrico <[1][email protected]>: Relax, Howard. No one is on trial here. Perhaps anathema is a less apt choice to describe alternatives to a right-hand position for playing post-1600 repertory on proper lutes. But for all intents and purposes, thumb-under technique is certainly not an historically appropriate right-hand position for what we call baroque lute. That is not to say it was never used, but Besard (Dowland) and Vallet, said it in print, and there are countless pictorial representations from the period that strongly suggest the right-hand thumb was very, very much out. This is a difficult truth to countenance for all those notable soldiers of the famous 1970s thumb-under brigade, who fought long and loudly to distinguish themselves from lute-dabbling classical guitarists (even to the point of eschewing the wearing of the ceremonial black turtleneck), but it is a truth nonetheless. I'll say it here: Based upon the body of surviving evidence from the period, lutes with diapasons designed to be used for post-1600 music were historically intended to be played with the right-hand thumb out, not under. RA __________________________________________________________________ From: [2][email protected] <[3][email protected]> on behalf of howard posner <[4][email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 5:18 PM To: Lutelist <[5][email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: RH folk style I'm not aware of anyone on this stating categorically that thumb-in is anathema on the d-minor lute. But I could easily have missed it, or deleted it and forgotten about it. I tend not to waste time dealing with categorical statements about how every player in history played the same way. And if, by chance, I've ever written anything here in the last 25 years that sounds like a categorical statement about the way every player, ever, played the same way, chalk it up to sloppy writing (or thinking), delete it, and forget about it. > On Aug 1, 2019, at 9:23 AM, G. C. <[6][email protected]> wrote: > > People on this list f. ex.? To get on or off this list see list information at [1][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
