Even the museum don't say it is German, the artists suggested are Italian
http://samling.nasjonalmuseet.no/en/object/NG.M.01341#
But Melchior did visit Italy in 1565, 9 years
before his undoubted portrait by Stimmer. And the
resemblance is possible but slight. The main
difference is the top half of his left ear which
Stimmer shows as flattened rather than curled
forwards. Maybe he was attacked in the
intervening 9 years!?
Is there any real evidence though?
Best wishes,
David
At 11:32 +0100 11/11/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Please Joachim :)
There is nothing to be learned if just those broad statements are uttered.
What makes you think that it is not a contemporary portrait?
On 11.11.19 11:23, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Well, he can. You can say; the traffic light is
green, not red. And: it is not a contemporary
portrait by a German painter, Roman is right.
All best
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again
Datum: 2019-11-11T05:59:46+0100
Von: "Tristan von Neumann" <[email protected]>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
You just repeated yourself...
You cannot say "is from the 1600s" for what you perceive as a style,
without any explanation...
:)
T*
On 11.11.19 04:41, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Neusiedler was Cranach the Younger's contemporary.
The portrait in question stylistically is from the 1600's.
It also doesn't look look German.
RT
On 11/10/2019 3:20 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Roman, what is your rationale for your stylistic argument?
On 10.11.19 20:04, Roman Turovsky wrote:
What is the rationale for ascribing the sitter to be Neusiedler?
The painting stylistically at least a generation later than the
Neusiedler's life dates.
RT
On 11/10/2019 11:03 AM, Wayne Cripps wrote:
I posted Arthurâ¤s picture of Melchior Newsidler at
https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-old/MN_OsloJ3.jpg
Wayne
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