So it is on Arthur, who brought this up, to deliver some insight about
his sources or reasoning.


Arthur? :)


The painting seems to show a composer though. Who could it be?

The scroll doesn't reveal much...

:)
T*


On 11.11.19 12:01, David Van Edwards wrote:
Even the museum don't say it is German, the artists suggested are Italian

http://samling.nasjonalmuseet.no/en/object/NG.M.01341#

But Melchior did visit Italy in 1565, 9 years before his undoubted
portrait by Stimmer. And the resemblance is possible but slight. The
main difference is the top half of his left ear which Stimmer shows as
flattened rather than curled forwards. Maybe he was attacked in the
intervening 9 years!?

Is there any real evidence though?

Best wishes,

David



At 11:32 +0100 11/11/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Please Joachim :)

There is nothing to be learned if just those broad statements are
uttered.

What makes you think that it is not a contemporary portrait?




On 11.11.19 11:23, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Well, he can. You can say; the traffic light is green, not red. And:
it is not a contemporary portrait by a German painter, Roman is right.

All best

Joachim

-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again
Datum: 2019-11-11T05:59:46+0100
Von: "Tristan von Neumann" <[email protected]>
An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

You just repeated yourself...

You cannot say "is from the 1600s" for what you perceive as a style,
without any explanation...


:)

T*




On 11.11.19 04:41, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Neusiedler was Cranach the Younger's contemporary.
The portrait in question stylistically is from the 1600's.
It also doesn't look look German.
RT

On 11/10/2019 3:20 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Roman, what is your rationale for your stylistic argument?




On 10.11.19 20:04, Roman Turovsky wrote:
What is the rationale for ascribing the sitter to be Neusiedler?
The painting stylistically at least a generation later than the
Neusiedler's life dates.
RT



On 11/10/2019 11:03 AM, Wayne Cripps wrote:
I posted Arthur⤁s picture of Melchior Newsidler at

https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-old/MN_OsloJ3.jpg

     Wayne



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