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A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. On Nov 28, 2019, at 3:12 PM, Anthony Hind <[1][email protected]> wrote: A lutemaker friend did the work and I can't distinguish it from the original bone on the nut. He called it dentine. It seemed to be liquid and in a small bottle. Perhaps it's a sort of ceramic used for filling front teeth, but I admit I'm not sure. Perhaps a lute maker on the list will know. Best Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le jeudi, novembre 28, 2019, 10:59 PM, John Mardinly <[2][email protected]> a écrit : I have seen a similar problem when moving to smaller diameter strings, especially if the nut was filed with jeweler's files giving it a âv' shaped profile . However, what is 'dentist's dentine', some sort of magic epoxy? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. On Nov 28, 2019, at 1:32 AM, Anthony Hind <[2][3][email protected]> wrote: Could it perhaps be Leonard, that the grooves at your nut at 5C was set up for your thicker unisson strings. Something similar happened to me on my 11C lute, when I replaced Venice twine unissons on F4 with equivalent thinner loaded strings. I heard a definite rattle. I put the Venices back and the problem went away. However later on my 3A unisson HT gut strings a similar rattle appeared, I hadn't changed the diameter, but perhaps some wear had slightly widened the groove or the neck moved a little. I could have changed to slightly thicker strings, but a lute maker friend said he could lightly fill and raise the nut's groove with dentist's dentine. This did the trick, so this solution for changing to octaves could possibly work for you. On my 7C lute, on 5C, I have Venice twine unissons and like yourself, I have been thinking of moving to 1.00 Venice bass and 0.52HT octave, but I fear a similar problem will occur as the lute originally was set up for the unisons so with a wider 1.00mm groove Also, I imagine perhaps wrongly, that a 0,52 Ht gut string will last a lot less than a 1.00 Venice unisson. Am I wrong about that? Best wishes Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le mercredi, novembre 27, 2019, 8:33 PM, Leonard Williams <[3][4][email protected]> a à ©crit : I, too have had issues with octaves on the 5th course of my 8 course lute. I tried it several years ago, using an octave half the diameter of the bass (all in gut). But, whereas the octave g on 6th blended well with its bass, the octave c stood out, sounding jangly, almost as though I had a metal string on there. Perhaps it was poor (thumb-in in this case) technique? At any rate, I switched back to unison. I'm trying octaves again as a result of this discussion, same stringing. One thing I paid careful attention to was the height of the octave: it stood a mere half millimeter above the bass at the bridge, but enough that I was striking the pair of strings unevenly, with the octave ringing out quite plainly. I adjusted the bridge knot, what little I could, and the sound improved somewhat. Perhaps further work with RH technique will further improve the sound. Or--any other suggestions?? Regards to all, and Happy (US) Thanksgiving! Leonard Williams On 23 nov. 2019, at 13:17, Jurgen Frenz <[1][2][4][5][email protected]> wrote: Hello there, I have an 8c lute now since 10 months and from the beginning I'm "unhappy" with the sound of the unison C strings on it. I changed the plain Aquila strings to round-wound Aquilas but to me it sounds quite the same. What I'm missing is the high frequencies that we have on 6c instruments with the octave string. 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