Would it adhere better to bone (or, shudder, ivory) than a hard plastic
nut? Wood would be acceptable, too, I suppose.
It might be that magic material to quickly build up a worn fret, too.
Carefully done, of course.
Sean
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:26 PM John Mardinly
<[1]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote:
Very cool. Dan Erlewine is just so full of cool tricks-he is
amazing.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
On Nov 28, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Steve Ramey
<[1][2]stevera...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Don't know about dentist's "dentine", but here's a trick that may
help.
[2]The baking soda and super glue trick
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The baking soda and super glue trick
"Can a broken nut can be fixed with baking soda and super glue?"
Lou, a
singer here in Athens, Ohio, brought thi...
HTH,
Steve
On Thursday, November 28, 2019, 05:06:59 PM EST, John Mardinly
<[3][3]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote:
I have seen a similar problem when moving to smaller diameter
strings,
especially if the nut was filed with jeweler's files giving it
a âv'
shaped profile . However, what is 'dentist's dentine', some
sort of
magic epoxy?
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
On Nov 28, 2019, at 1:32 AM, Anthony Hind
<[1][4][4]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
Could it perhaps be Leonard, that the grooves at your nut
at 5C
was
set up for your thicker unisson strings. Something similar
happened
to
me on my 11C lute, when I replaced Venice twine unissons on
F4 with
equivalent thinner loaded strings. I heard a definite rattle.
I put
the
Venices back and the problem went away.
However later on my 3A unisson HT gut strings a similar
rattle
appeared, I hadn't changed the diameter, but perhaps some
wear had
slightly widened the groove or the neck moved a little. I
could
have
changed to slightly thicker strings, but a lute maker friend
said
he
could lightly fill and raise the nut's groove with dentist's
dentine.
This did the trick, so this solution for changing to octaves
could
possibly work for you.
On my 7C lute, on 5C, I have Venice twine unissons and like
yourself,
I
have been thinking of moving to 1.00 Venice bass and 0.52HT
octave,
but
I fear a similar problem will occur as the lute originally
was set
up
for the unisons so with a wider 1.00mm groove
Also, I imagine perhaps wrongly, that a 0,52 Ht gut string
will
last
a
lot less than a 1.00 Venice unisson.
Am I wrong about that?
Best wishes
Anthony
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Le mercredi, novembre 27, 2019, 8:33 PM, Leonard Williams
<[2][5][5]arc...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a à ©crit :
I, too have had issues with octaves on the 5th course
of my 8
course lute. I tried it several years ago, using an
octave half
the
diameter of the bass (all in gut). But, whereas the
octave g on
6th
blended well with its bass, the octave c stood out,
sounding
jangly,
almost as though I had a metal string on there. Perhaps
it was
poor
(thumb-in in this case) technique? At any rate, I
switched back
to
unison.
I'm trying octaves again as a result of this
discussion, same
stringing. One thing I paid careful attention to was the
height
of
the
octave: it stood a mere half millimeter above the bass at
the
bridge,
but enough that I was striking the pair of strings
unevenly, with
the
octave ringing out quite plainly. I adjusted the bridge
knot,
what
little I could, and the sound improved somewhat. Perhaps
further
work
with RH technique will further improve the sound. Or--any
other
suggestions??
Regards to all, and Happy (US) Thanksgiving!
Leonard Williams
On 23 nov. 2019, at 13:17, Jurgen Frenz
<[1][2][3][6][6]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hello there,
I have an 8c lute now since 10 months and from the beginning
I'm
"unhappy" with the sound of the unison C strings on it. I
changed
the
plain Aquila strings to round-wound Aquilas but to me it
sounds
quite
the same. What I'm missing is the high frequencies that we
have on
6c
instruments with the octave string. In my mind I call the
current
sound
"plastic-y". The maker of the instrument suggested to try out
the
Savarez early music strings but I do not think I would
recover
high
frequencies with them.
Any remedies that you have tried out with success other than
"just
get
used to it"? An octave string shouldn't be a good idea
because it
would
confuse voices.
Hoping for some suggestions,
Jurgen
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