Dear Dmitry You have a point there: as a matter of fact Milan did set to music poetry by Petrarch and Sannazaro, but to his music.
Cheers Antonio On Thursday, 2 January 2020, 14:24:08 GMT-6, Dmitry Medvedev <d.p.medve...@gmail.com> wrote: Ah, sorry, should have read more carefully about sonadas :) On 1/2/2020 2:51 PM, Dmitry Medvedev wrote: > Fair enough, but should we then assume that, for example, "Madonna per > voi ardo", both text and music, were written by Luis Milan? > > Cheers, > Dmitry > > On 1/2/2020 1:48 PM, Antonio Corona wrote: > >> You would do well not to assume that I would state something without >> basis. >> >> About authorship: >> >> Libro de musica de vihuela de mano. Intitulado El Maestro [...] >> Compuesto por don Luys Milan. [...] Y siguiendo mi inclinacion / he >> me hallado vn libro hecho de muchas obras: que de la vihuela tenia >> sacadas y escritas [...] si yo solo tuuiese este libro perderia su >> valor: pues el dexaria e hazer el prouecho que puede: Y si el me >> tuuiese para que ninguno pudiesse gozar del/p[er]deria yo el mio/pues >> seria ingrato a quien me dio saber para hazerlo. [...] El qual [i.e. >> Milán] muy affectdamente ruega a toso los que por su libro passaran >> que no juzguen sus obras hasta que sean tañidas como cada vno querria >> que sus obras lo fuessen: y tañidas en su perficion. >> >> About the meaning of "componer": >> >> Estas seys fantasias que se siguen como arriba hos dixe parescen en >> su ayre y compostura a las mesmas pauanas que en Ytalia se tañen: y >> oues en todo remedan a ellas digamos les pauanas. las quatro primeras >> son inuentadas por mi. las dos que se despues se siguen la sonada >> dellas se hizo en Ytalia: y la compostura sobre la sonada dellas es mia. >> >> About the villancicos: >> >> Este que agora se sigue es el otauo quaderno de musica para cantar y >> tañer [...] En el qual hallareys villancicos y sonadas en castellano >> y en portugues y en ytaliano. [i.e. not Portuguese or Italian >> villancicos]. >> >> Finalmente haueys hallado musica para cantar y tañer en castellano y >> en portugues /y en ytaliano. >> >> Esta musica que agora se sigue son villancicos en castellano y >> portugues y sonetos en ytaliano. >> >> Aqui empieçan los villancicos en portugues: y este que se sigue segun >> esta sonado el cantor pude hazer garganta. >> >> >> Furthermore, you would find it enlightening to read El cortesano >> (1561) by Milan himself, where he displays openly his proclivity for >> singing and playing his own works and not those of somebody else, as >> well as the poetic interchanges between the vihuelist and Juan >> Fernández de Heredia in Las obras de don Ioan Fernandez de Heredia, >> assi temporales como espirituales (1562). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, 2 January 2020, 06:14:39 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann >> <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Says he himself? Or what is the reason for this assumption? >> >> >> :) >> >> >> On 02.01.20 13:03, Antonio Corona wrote: >>> All the music in El Maestro is by Milán >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, 2 January 2020, 05:54:12 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann >>> <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you sure? >>> >>> Aren't those just Milan's versions of the villancicos? >>> >>> >>> Happy New Year, >>> >>> T* >>> >>> >>> On 02.01.20 11:21, Antonio Corona wrote: >>>> Not quite: they are villancicos in Portuguese by Milan himself. >>>> >>>> Happy New Year to all, >>>> Antonio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 1 January 2020, 00:52:50 GMT-6, Frank A. >>>> Gerbode, M.D. <sa...@gerbode.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Luis Milan El Maestro has 3 Portuguese villancicos, #s 34 to 37 >>>> [1]here. >>>> --Sarge >>>> -- >>>> Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. ([2]sa...@gerbode.net) >>>> 11132 Dell Ave >>>> Forestville, CA 95436-9491 >>>> Home phone: 707-820-1759 >>>> Website: [3]http://www.gerbode.net >>>> "The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got." >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> References >>>> >>>> 1. http://gerbode.net/sources/Milan_el_maestro_1535/songs/ >>>> 2. mailto:sa...@gerbode.net >>>> 3. http://www.gerbode.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>> >>>> >> > >
