On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:16:00PM +1000, muzza wrote:
> Screen Res has been a bug bear of mine too:.
> In the past yoiu could get decent res:- 1280x1024 or above and quite commonly 
> 1600x1200 and at 2ms response times. However it seems that some idiot 
> somewhere decided that we only watch videos on our computers so we only need 
> 1920x1080 at 5ms response times, 

it's not so much that 1920x1200 and other resolutions are over-priced,
it's that 1920x1080 is dirt-cheap.

the reason for that resolution is because that's what all the TV
manufacturers made in mass quantities for 1080p "Full HD" televisions.
different resolutions just aren't built in the same numbers, with the
same economies of scale. they flooded the market and, as a result,
screens of that resolution got a massive reduction in price that other
resolutions didn't.

1080p is good enough for TV so we probably won't see significantly
better resolutions cheaply until the TV watchers are convinced that 4K
TVs are worthwhile. personally, i can't see the need for it for TV, but
i'll be ready and waiting to buy when they get cheap enough - a nice
small 24-32" 4K TV will make a very nice computer monitor. that won't be
for several years, though.


2560x1440 (aka "1440p") will beat 2560x1600 for a similar reason - 16:9
is a wide-screen TV resolution, 16:10...but it won't be as cheap as
1080p because there's no reason at all for TV owners to upgrade to that
- nothing is broadcast in that resolution....even most "HD" content is
just upscaled SD, but it's hard to notice because most people watch TV
from 10+ feet away.

it's Apple iMacs and Dell workstations and the like driving the
production of 1440p, a much smaller market than TVs - but users can
watch full-screen videos on 16:9 without letterboxing and without weird
scaling distortions...still, i'll probably replace my current 1920x1200
monitor with one when 24 or 27 inch 1440p monitors get down to $3-$400 -
they're around $600-ish now.

I'd prefer 2560x1600 because that extra vertical resolution is
invaluable but i doubt i'll ever see that at an affordable price,
apart from Apple's brief flirtation with that on 30" imacs, they're
specialty-market items for medical devices (and anything medical is
always ridiculously overpriced)

> and for crappy lappies only 1366x768. 

we're already starting to see laptops with better resolutions, 1080p
and 1440p in 4-ish, 7, and 10 inch sizes- tablets (and even phones) are
pushing that....but again, there's a bigger market for 7 and 10 inch
tablets than there is for 11, 12, 14, etc inch laptops.

small notebooks will benefit hugely from the mass-produced tablet
screens. other sizes, not so much.


> the point is why are they bringing out screens that even MS Windows   
> doesnt support?.                                                      

windows, and linux, support such resolutions. but like web-developers,
application developers test their software on their full-size desktop
screens and if looks good there, it's good enough. so they make dialog
boxes that don't fit in 1366x768 screens. most don't even think about
the fact that it will look different, let alone crappy, on a different
screen with a different resolution or size.

> Its possible that the gamers that used to drive computer improvements
> have been undermined by the general dweeb population who dont know any
> better.

TVs are a much bigger market than enthusiast gamers

> Its also possible that it is the thin end of the wedge encouraging us
> to move to tablets and phones with higher resolutions (if impossible
> to see the older you get)

no, it's just that mass-market things are cheaper than other things.


craig

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