Quoting russ...@coker.com.au (russ...@coker.com.au): > Yet occasionally people do such things.
I see you're back to ignoring my point. Ah well. > > Also, poorly socialised nerds don't perceive NSA as taking their toys > > away the way (e.g.) entitlement-crazed debian-user subscribers do when > > faced with the prospect of 1000+ developers not promising to do do > > exactly what they, the debian-user subscribers, want. > > The Snowden revelations effectively forced the world to use HTTPS. That took > a few toys away. Again, pretty much failing to grasp nuance and context, here. I don't think the intended meaning of 'taking their toys away' was unclear, but you're not really following, and seemingly not actually trying. > > However, I think it a rather more likely factor that the 8Chan types had > > already glommed onto the systemd discussion within Debian as being a > > symbolic 'SJW' issue, hence they jumped in with their characteristic > > vitriol even though they overwhelmingly have little or no interest in > > Debian or even Linux. > > However would they have got that idea? Um, because they're pretty much a crazy rage-mob? I mean, you _do_ have some idea what I mean when I say '8chan types', right? > https://etbe.coker.com.au/2015/01/13/systemd-notes/ > > No, I'm referring to the above blog post which was linked from the anti- > systemd-people post. Then, I'm no wiser, since no comments are displayed there. Perhaps you deleted them (but the archive.org snapshots all have 'Comments are closed' at the bottom, too). > When someone makes malicious bug reports it takes a lot more effort to delete > them than simply deleting a message. It is impossible for a regular DD to > killfile someone from the BTS, only the sysadmin team can do that. Welcome to the Internet, I guess. It's 2016, and there are bored net.randoms doing rage-mobbing. (And, again, in all likelihood, I'm betting that many of those were just joy-riding outsiders getting their entertainment from piling fuel on a scrapheap fire.) > Surprising really given all the other toxic stuff that has happened in > Debian. Debian is so much better than it used to be! _I'm_ not surprised. Joey was reacting to some pretty serious internal ugliness within the project's internal affairs to which, as a key developer, he had a front-row seat. And _also_, separately from and in addition to that, IMO the project haplessly being dragged by the GNOME multiseat API, of all the petty things, into bad administrative decisions was pretty pathetic. You think those bad administrative decisions were correct, so you think everything's better and better. We shall therefore politely agree to disagree on this matter. > But it was this issue out of the thousands of issues that have arisen > previously that got the involvement of the outside users and demonstrated the > problem to a level that Joey couldn't ignore. I think it very clearly called Joey's attention to pre-existing structural problems that he felt are unfixable. And therefor resigned as a DD and orphaned all of his packages. > No, it's just that I am sticking to the exact meaning of my statement and not > allowing you to reinterpret it. Again, I really don't think my meaning was difficult to grasp, but I do think you have a serious deafness to context and nuance. (This is rather common among computerists, of course.) > I think that when a man is claiming to be a feminist it's strongly > correlated to him being a jerk. This is evidence to support that > theory. Well, as they say in the American South, 'Bless your heart.' ;-> Still not interested in that copy of my 1976 cheque to join N.O.W.? And maybe I can throw in some 1980s and 1990s snapshots of my doing escort duty of Planned Parenthood clients, walking them through Operation Rescue picket lines, for good measure. _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main
