Am Montag, den 01.10.2012, 04:24 +0200 schrieb John Spencer: > On 10/01/2012 03:14 AM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Does LXDE have a position on systemd/udev etc? > > it's a PoS, designed by the hallucinating lennart 'mezcalero' poettering > who constantly tries to shove his shit down our throats.
How so? Does anybody force you to use his software? > almost everything that's broken around the linux desktop is his invention. Such as? > > I am thinking of the apsect where gnome will, and where its being talked > > about that any desktop will have no choice but to move to systemd > > exclusively to function at all. Currently gentoo is moving to > > that's just FUD. there are and will be distros that dont bow down to the > red hat/freedesktop dictatorship. the more resist, the better. Your statement makes me wonder if you really understand FLOSS. It's not and has never been democracy, not every random individual has the same rights. Of course everyone can state his or her opinion - and that includes even you and your rant - but at the end of the day those who do the work set the pace and direction. If your code is good, people will adopt it. This has absolutely nothing to do with dictatorship, it's meritocracy at it's best. > > stubs/scripts and work arounds to avoid replacing what is a more > > flexible init system. > > more flexible ? more complex and error prone. sysv init has no error handling, you need to rely on the services handling errors correctly, but there is no central authority to make sure they really do. Say your service (apache, postfix, whatever) needs the network to be up, DNS to be available and a (remote) file system mounted before it can start. Have fun writing checks for all these conditions and executing them over and over during boot. Knock yourself out figuring out the right order and to change it when you add another service. Then tell me again what is more complex and error prone. BTW: I have already replaced lxsession with a systemd user session and it was trivial. Just 3 files of 9 lines each. > the binary syslog is just stupid. That is the claim. Where is your reasoning? > there's nothing more flexible than a shell script started by pid 1 > (init), which can be as slim as ~20 lines of C code. sysv's init has around 3200 lines of code. Would you mind showing me an init implementation with 20 lines of code? Best regards, Christoph ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html _______________________________________________ Lxde-list mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list
