Am Mittwoch, den 03.10.2012, 22:07 +0300 schrieb Andrej N. Gritsenko:
>     Hello!
> 
> Stephan Sokolow has written on Tuesday,  2 October, at 15:34:
> >Thankfully, I found a link to the static build of Skype 2.2 beta that 
> >still worked since, when I filed a bug, I basically got dismissed with 
> >"Ubuntu's approach for removing PA is broken somehow".
> 
>     One friend of mine complained that sound on her system sometimes just
> vanishes - the movie was playing then no sound and mixer shows the sound
> is on and 100% but no sound at all. Unlogging doesn't help, only reboot.
> There was no way to reproduce it, it just happens. After I've removed the
> PA from her Ubuntu that problem disappeared forever. How I can report the
> bug to Ubuntu? 

Through http://bugs.launchpad.net/

> Or it will be another bug report that will be never fixed?

That depends on the Ubuntu maintainers. They should work with upstream,
track development closely and if they cannot do this, they should not
ship it. The simple rule is: Don't ship software you cannot support!

And this rule not only applies to PA but to every piece of software and
especially to closed source like Sykpe. If you cannot fix the code, you
cannot support it.

> Not saying Lennart will never accept the bug from non-RH user. 

I'm afraid he will, unless you compiled latest git from source. If you
don't know what people are using and what patches have been applied or
not, it's hard or impossible to support it.

> Do I have
> any other solution but purge PA from every system where some problem with
> sound appears?

If you are going to remove every piece of software that doesn't work
100% there will not be much left I guess.

> It happened on many already, unfortunately for PA.

I have to admit that when PA came up, it was rough and did not work
correctly for me either. But I haven't had problems with it for years
now and whenever I had, it was mostly due to other applications that did
not work correctly. Many programs did not implement ALSA correctly, e.g.
they hardcoded "hw0:0" instead of using the "default" soundcard and all
this stuff suddenly broke with PA. But PA was not the culprit, it just
revealed the bugs.

>  And I'm
> afraid systemd is much more problematic (and harder to resolve) than PA.

What makes you think so?

> And if systemd work for someone that doesn't mean it should be installed
> for everyone.

That is up to your distribution. They should make sure it works for
everyone and if not, that it can be swapped with sysvinit. Even in
Fedora, which implemented systemd first, I can go back to sysvinit.

Kind regards,
Christoph


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