Am 02.01.2026 um 10:45 schrieb Pavel Sanda <[email protected]>:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 05:37:21PM +0900, Koji Yokota wrote:
>> I tried to run macOS LyX binary (version 2.4.4) but macOS Gatekeeper 
>> prevents to do so, saying that it cannot check if malware is included in the 
>> app.
>> 
>> Homebrew, a major app manager, says:
>>> Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS 
>>> Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01.
>> 
>> I???m not sure from when this problem exists, but probably after the version 
>> update of macOS. Can this be amended?
> 
> I hope the only thing which changed is homebrew decision not to support 
> unsigned casks.
> Koji, can you try the usual trick to bypass gatekeeper when downloading .dmg 
> directly from lyx ftp site?
> 
> There are myriads of articles on the web how to bypass gatekeeper, including 
> completely disabling it, eg:
> https://nordvpn.com/blog/macos-cannot-verify-this-app-is-free-from-malware/
> 
> Pavel
> 
> PS: I personally think that from both a) philosophical and b) practical 
> reasons I don't think we should officially support apple signing.
> 
> a) It's absurd to pay apple so we can improve it's ecosystem by our own free 
> work.
>   They have fee waiver for non-profits, but unless someone wants to lead us 
> through the legalization to become formal organization, that's no-go.
>   (I did not check, but there might be some umbrella org for signing 
> established floss projects?)
> 
> b) Unless Stephan is inclined to pay from his own pocket or accept donations 
> any lyx-money related operations are pain when you start considering 
> tax-related issues.
>   (Stephan do you have some opinion about this?)
> 
> I read that homebrew supports unofficial taps, where signatures are not 
> required, so someone might try to establish this for lyx as well later…

The DMG from LyX ftp-site is signed with a self-created key. I made this key.

There was a discussion about this topic in 2013 mails with the subject „LyX.app 
can't be opened“ …

I can afford the fee - but… 

That time (2013) I had a problem with signing a „contract“ I cannot 100% 
understand. And I see the ethical problems about FOSS and (recurring!) payments 
for a license to distribute it.

Of course I’m interested in a safe software infrastructure too. I accept that 
Apple has a responsibility to that and has to provide a way to distribute 
software as securly as it can.

The best option would be to have the option to sign the software w/o fee 
somehow. I’d prefer to get a key as an official organization. Perhaps TUG got 
it w/o fee?

Stephan

PS: Sorry for being late - I’m really busy…

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