Thanks for the response concerning the 40H parts.

 

I took some time this evening to very carefully look at all the signals on the 
80C55. I thought I saw some odd waveforms and after setting the scope to single 
shot mode I did indeed see some oddness on AD0 through AD7. 

 

Take a look: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtH4vpaZnzX7j8A29GFkjLbQlWpLUA

 

I checked that it is the same at the 80C55 side of M1 and M2 while the ‘other’ 
side of M1 and M2 has nice square waves. I then checked that the control 
signals ALE and /RD appear to be correct and they do. This leads me to believe 
that one or both of M1/M2 are defective. I believe I have a 74HC version of 
these on hand.

 

I very much appreciate being steered in the right direction 😊

 

On an unrelated note: what kind of evil flux did they use on these boards. I 
tried to clean the flux off of my capacitor installation and wound up taking 
30+ minutes to flush the back side of the PCB with alcohol several times to get 
the yellow tinged flux off. It wanted to form a nasty white chalk type coating. 

 

Thank again,

Jeff

 

From: M100 <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M100] SPAM-LOW: Re: New member - question on 'half' alive Model 
100

 

I replaced my 40H decoder with a 7x part and have had no issues. The address 
decoder circuit failed in my 102 and it turned out to be the demultiplexer / 
decoder.

 

On Tue, May 1, 2018, 4:57 PM Jeffrey Birt <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Possible silly question…I have been able to find no data on the 40H244, 40H245, 
40H373 part numbers. Given their function and pinout I’m guessing that a 74HC 
part would be an acceptable substitute?

 

Thanks again,

Jeff

 

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<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Fugu ME100
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100

 

If checking the buffers etc you should see the I0/M line toggle quite quickly 
after power on and of course the ALE line.  If it does not then it is not even 
starting a proper boot, I feel your processor is OK they are quite robust and 
well protected by all the buffers.  

 

I think you mentioned a click on power-on this could be the remote relay 
clicking on, it is controlled by M14, this too is a symptom of an improper boot 
sequence.  This part also controls access to the ROM, if it does not initialize 
correctly the ROM might never be accessed properly.

 

The chip ids look good to start.   You may also want to check continuity to the 
ROM and RAM chips just to make sure there are no cracks in the Address and Data 
PCB tracks.  The quality of the M100 boards is quite low.  

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