Thanks Kurt.  I'm even denser than usual tonight I guess.

>From earlier posts, seems the problem (102 screen dimming) is likely caused
by the usb/serial cable.  One end of the cable is a usb plug; other end is
the DB9.

So I'm afraid I don't know how to test continuity on the cable.  I can find
pin 4 of the DB9 - but where does the DB25 fit in the picture?

Or, are you saying to test the cable with the DB9/DB25 adapter plugged into
the cable?

Sorry to be the dolt again.
Tom M.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:57 AM Kurt McCullum <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are store bought cables that work well. Brian has done a great job
> putting together a list of those cables. For my machines I have a mixture
> of custom made cables or slim adapters. Both methods work and give me the
> pinout below. When you get the cable right, your M102 will be happy.
>
> But to the question at hand, don't tear apart your cable. Check it. Right
> now you know that pins 2,3 and 5 are all going to the right locations. You
> will need to check pins 4,6,7 and 8. Since those are paired lines (4/6,
> 7/8) one or both pairs will be flipped.
>
> If you have a multi-meter which has a continuity check on it then you test
> both ends of the wire.
>
> Here is what I have found to work on all my machines and I include this in
> the mComm manual.
>
> 7 Wire Cable
> PC
>
> Model-T
> DCD
> 1
> NC
>
>
> RX
> 2
> →
> 2
> TX
> TX
> 3
> ←
> 3
> RX
> DTR
> 4
> ←
> 6
> DSR
> GND
> 5
> ↔
> 7
> GND
> DSR
> 6
> ←
> 20
> DTR
> RTS
> 7
> →
> 5
> CTS
> CTS
> 8
> ←
> 4
> RTS
> RI
> 9
> NC
>
>
>
> Take one probe of the meter and put it on pin 4 of the DB9 and the other
> on pin 6 of the DB25. It should beep or light up (however you meter
> functions to indicate a connection). Then do the same for the DSR line on
> pin 6 to pin 20. And finally the RTS and CTS pins 7->5 and 8-> 4. If they
> are crossed in some manner, then you will not get a beep or a light.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, at 7:38 AM, Thomas Morehouse wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments gents.  Learn something every day.
>
> Kurt, on the "crossed wires" issue, what is the procedure for fixing the
> problem?  I sure don't want to pull something apart, or buy even *more*
> adapters!
>
> Thanks.
> Tom M.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:03 AM Kurt McCullum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> What you are describing happens to me when the either the CTS/RTS or
> DTR/DSR wires in your cable are crossed.
>
> Example. The CTS pin listens (checks for voltage) to the RTS pin on the
> other end. If you have a cable where RTS goes straight to RTS and CTS going
> straight to CTS, then you have two ends of the cable both feeding voltage
> to the same wire. This causes the screen to go dim. the DTR/DSR pins can
> produce the same issue.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, at 5:33 AM, Thomas Morehouse wrote:
>
> Now that I've got my usb/serial link working (M102 to Dell laptop), I
> notice the 102's screen get quite dim when the cable is in the 102's 25 pin
> serial port.
>
> Doesn't need to be connected to the Dell.  Just when you plug the
> usb/serial cable into the 102.  Unplug the cable, 102 screen returns to
> normal visibility.
>
> Something to worry about?  or just live with it?  I wouldn't have thought
> the usb/serial cable chip would put such a drain on the system.  Happens
> with battery power, or even with external 6 volt poweer.
>
> Thanks.
> Tom M.
>
>
>
>

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