Every version of BASIC is a little different than every other, even between different models of computer from the same company, even if they are all Microsoft basic.
There are lots of little syntax and capability and behavior detail differences. Sometimes there are complete major features that exist in one and not in another, sometimes it's trivial easily translated details where both versions have roughly the same ability and functionality, but for instance, maybe a program has array names like FOO$(), but you're on a Model 1 and array names can only be a single letter, so you just have to change all FOO() or FOO$() to F() or F$(), and away you go. The syntax, feature, and function are all still *generally* the same. Don't be too startled by this thing with the PRINT behavior. There is a lot of exactly that kind of detail difference. There are a few neat books that acts as a 3-way or 4-way Rosetta Stone for translating between Apple, TRS-80, and Commodore, etc. "Basic BASIC English Dictionary for the Apple, PET, and TRS-80" "The BASIC Conversions Handbook for Apple, Commodore, TRS-80, and Atari users" Though I don't remember if either of those covers Model 100. Most likely they mean Model I, or maybe I & III. Even Just Model I alone had several different versions between rom updates and several different disk basic versions. On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 8:24 PM James Zeun <james.z...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well at least the program did work, so it means I can go further with my > book. > > :-) > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 1:00 am Peter Vollan, <dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is explained in the Model 100 user manual, although now I cannot >> remember where, and turns up in other early Microsoft products. Where >> negative numbers have a dash, positive numbers have a space, and this >> needs to be taken into account if you have occaision to turn a number >> string into a mathematical value. >> >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 16:02, James Zeun <james.z...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > So this evening >> > >> > I was reading one of my programming books. >> > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUzdWckVpSUlIb0E/view?usp=drivesdk >> > >> > >> > I'm not far in (page 5) and already something has pop up that didn't >> work as expected. >> > >> > PRINT "TOTAL=";2*17 >> > TOTAL=34 >> > >> > On my M100 >> > >> > TOTAL= 34 >> > >> > The M100 inserts a space after the equal sign. When according to the >> book a semi colon should leave no space. >> > >> > >> > -James >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 10:31 pm Peter Vollan, <dprogra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I know that there is a program called D20 for dice rolling. Does >> >> anyone out there know where it is??? >> >> >> >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:19, James <james.z...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Peter sorry it took me a while to answer this, but here goes >> >> > >> >> > At present we are playing a 5th edition game, have been for about a >> >> > year. I keep having to replace my character sheet and did wonder if I >> >> > couldn't program something on my M100. Like an electronic 5e >> character >> >> > sheet. Presently I don't have a clue how such a thing could be >> achieved, >> >> > but I do have an idea of how it might work. >> >> > >> >> > A primary screen showing character stats and a second page for >> >> > inventory. Perhaps toggling between the two using the tab key. >> >> > >> >> > I myself have been reading up on D&D Basic, as found in the >> Cyclopedia >> >> > TSR 1071. I own the 1070 boxset which as i understand it was when TSR >> >> > combined Basic, Expert, Companion and Master all in to one. >> >> > >> >> > If I can make a set of DnD tools would i use my M100 to manage my DnD >> >> > games? You're damn right I would! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 08/01/2020 1:56, Peter Vollan wrote: >> >> > > What edition do you use? >> >> > > >> >> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 17:06, James Zeun <james.z...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> Great, I'll have to check that out! >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I'm currently checking out all the books that have been suggested >> to me. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Really difficult to find physically books. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 1:03 am C. Magaret, <mega...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >>> "Dragon" was about role-playing games, primarily D&D. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> /CAM >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 16:48, James Zeun <james.z...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> Was the Dragon Magazine a computer mag or a magazine about >> roleplaying? >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 12:30 am Peter Vollan, < >> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>> Dragon. >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 15:52, James Zeun <james.z...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>> Is that the one from the dungeon magazine? >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 11:34 pm Peter Vollan, < >> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>> I have just about got the Dungeon Master's Personnel Service >> debugged >> >> > >>>>>> and working on Virtual T. >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 14:14, Britt Dodd < >> brittman...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>> I’ve read the M100 manual and it did have some examples on >> there, but the majority of it was more a glossary of statements. >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Dan Higdon < >> therealh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> The treasure horde program isn't posted anywhere. It's not >> long, but I don't have a copy on this machine. When I get home, I can send >> it to the list. >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Peter Vollan < >> dprogra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>> You may be interested in knowing that I have already cut >> that text out >> >> > >>>>>>>> of the pdf of Dragon #74 and then pasted it back together >> in a text >> >> > >>>>>>>> file. Better than typing it all in like the old days, yes? >> I just ran >> >> > >>>>>>>> it in Virtual T (Model 100) and it barfs at the command >> "randomize". >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> I did the same thing with a program to generated character >> for TSR's >> >> > >>>>>>>> Top Secret RPG, and then adapted it for the Model 100. It >> looks at the >> >> > >>>>>>>> tail end of TIME$ to randomise from 1 to 10 and then goes >> through that >> >> > >>>>>>>> many random numbers. It is on my Club 100 member page, but >> the member >> >> > >>>>>>>> pages are unfortunately down just now. >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> I know that there is a program that does exactly what you >> describe >> >> > >>>>>>>> called D20.BA. I don't know how it randomises. >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> I am interested in that program to generate treasure. BTW >> it is called >> >> > >>>>>>>> a treasure "hoard". >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 13:15, Jason Paul <havel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>> In most cases the syntax could change but the command >> should mostly be the same. Depending on what machine you're using that >> particular book was published with versions for specific Basics Commodore >> Atari Apple TRS-80 etc. >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Do a Google search for Dragon magazine 74 PDF and there >> should be a program listing that is a dungeon Master's kind of utility >> program. It's not the only one. Don't be confused by the battle computer >> that is really just a slotted wheel for determining combat to hit >> percentages. >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 4:10 PM James Zeun < >> james.z...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> It says for the TRS80 Model 3... I'm assuming that would >> still be alright? >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:55 pm Ken Pettit, < >> petti...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I just remembered the title. It is "Golden Flutes and >> Great Escapes": >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://www.apple-iigs.info/doc/fichiers/goldenflutesandgreatescapes.pdf >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ken >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/20 12:48 PM, James Zeun wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes please! That would be great! >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020, 8:36 pm Ken Pettit, < >> petti...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/20 11:12 AM, Jerry Stratton wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if anyone has any books they'd be >> willing to part with or just recommend one. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If your D&Dness includes wanting to write text >> adventures in BASIC, Tim Hartnell’s Creating Adventure Games On Your >> Computer was very nice. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Come to think of it, I still own a book on writing text >> adventures in >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> BASIC ... probably sitting on the top shelf of my >> bookshelf at home. I >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> could look up the title later tonight when I get home >> if it is of any >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> interest. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >> >
