Actually James, I work with both devices, so am familiar with what I speak. By strictly swipe, I mean, strictly use the touch screen as opposed to built-in hardware based directional controls. We are not talking about Bluetooth accessories like keyboards and portable mice, we are talking about the basic phone. In this sense, if you have to use the touch screen you are strictly "swiping". I hope this clears it up for you.


On 11/11/2011 10:15 AM, James Mannion wrote:
In reading this message, I wonder what you mean by "iphone, trictly
swipe"? I don't want to jump to conclusions or accuse before knowing
what you meant, but I can't figure out what you could mean and I hope
you have your facts straight before saying something about something
you want to bash. I don't know of any "strictly swipe" about anything
on the IPhone, particularly in the context of handeling calls, as is
being talked about here.

On 11/10/11, Dusty Tague<[email protected]>  wrote:
No one is covering up for code factory, since many phones still work,
the problem isn't with code factory, it is with Google allowing
fragmentation.  Set a standard and Code Factory will either meet it or
go away.  Frankly, I see MA as the best of the alternatives, windows
phone 7, inaccessible, iPhone, strictly swipe.  Blackberry and Symbian,
on their way out.  Do I wish code factory was more on top of things yes,
should they be more responsive to their customers, yes.  If I replace my
version of the Android operating system with ice cream sandwich and it
works out of the box on all native apps and feels smooth and easy to
use, unless code factory wows me, I will walk away and not look back.
actually you most likely will be notified of a release as someone will
post it here.  In addition, you will get a notification that updates are
available.  Keep the faith.  swiping and tapping isn't that bad.

On 11/10/2011 7:36 PM, Nick Zammarelli wrote:
I'm sorry, but we need to stop covering for Code Factory on these
issues. Last summer, we thought it was just an issue with HTC phones,
but we now know that it goes much deeper. I have an LG enlighten,
which I love, but I cannot answer or reject calls using the volume
keys. Dan is right, why should we have to swipe to answer a call when
the phone is locked but have to find the answer button when the phone
is in use. It was easy for Code Factory to lay blame with just one
manufacturer, but clearly this is not the case, and now we all know
that. Hopefully, a new version of Mobile Accessibility is coming soon
that addresses all these issues. Of course, even if this is so, we'll
never know this, because Code Factory never tells us anything.On
11/10/2011 2:36 PM, Dusty Tague wrote:
It is not just code factory at fault, it is android for allowing
fragmentation to occur making this a problem.  I think I can honestly
say that for some the simplicity and continuity makes the iPhone  a
better purchase.  The reason I said generally is that the
manufacturers aren't always consistent in labeling buttons and
placing them in the same location, but I have found that there are
few exceptions to this and differ according to the particular app.
That is the problem with a one size fits all approach on a fragmented
platform.  It is a shame that t-mobile doesn't offer the iPhone. You
could try the sidekick 4g, or the lg my touch q, check the keyboard
first to make sure, and see if that would be a better phone.




On 11/10/2011 12:22 PM, dan greene wrote:
That may be true, but on the MyTouch 4G Slide, with MA running,
sometimes the trackpad works for arrowing down and to the side, and
sometimes it does not.
And, now forgive me if this sounds argumentative, it should not take
me 3 or more gestures to hang up the phone.
And, again being argumentative, why should there be one procedure
for answering/disconnecting the phone when it's waking up, and
another when the phone is awake as the call comes in?
And, finally, if the phone is still against my ear when I try to
hang up, it's usually displaying a different screen than if I move
it away from my ear--something CF  seems to forget to tell users in
its, so-called, manual.
I laughed out loud when I read your sentence that contained the
words "generally works".
Generally works????  I just spent over $300 for a phone, and CF
wants over another $100 for this software.  Seems to me that things
should be a bit better than "generally works".
And CF should support its users better, instead of canned responses
to their problem reports.
I certainly mean no disrespect to you,  I thank you for responding,
but I've spent almost a week trying to help my wife learn this new
phone, and the inconsistency of operations, and the absolute lack of
support from CF, is unbelievable.
Cheers
Dan G


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     *From:* [email protected]
     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dusty
Tague
     *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:03 AM
     *To:* Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
     *Cc:* Steve Cook
     *Subject:* Re: [MA] Answering A Call

     Dan, if you can answer a call in system screens, you can hang up,
     either arrow down once and to the right once and you should be on
     the correct button.  Another approach, also when using system call
     screens is to tap the screen to the right of where you tap to
     answer, not on the right side of the screen but more to the left
     side of middle.
       Both these approaches generally work on most phones regardless
     of manufacture as long as they have physical navigation controls.

     On 11/10/2011 9:05 AM, Steve Cook wrote:
     Thanks for this information Dan.

     Steve Cook
     Assistive Technology Consultant
     SC Commission for the Blind
     1430 Confederate Avenue
     Columbia, SC 29201
     Office: (803) 898-8788
     Fax: (803) 898-8882
     E-Mail:[email protected]

     -----Original Message-----
     From:[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
[email protected]
     Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:14 AM
     To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
     Subject: Re: [MA] Answering A Call

     Hi Steve,

     I have similar problems with the My Touch 4G Slide.
     When your phone is awake as a call comes in, there doesn't seem
to be any way to answer the call using MA.
     the swipe up doesn't work, just increases the ringer volume,
and, like you, the volume keys just silence the ringer.
     I haven't tried answering one call, while on another--the
manual says just a swipe up will answer,  I tend to doubt that now.
     You can try using the system call screen, (it's selected by a
checkbox in the MA settings/advanced dialog box) but I found that
option even worse.
     With that screen enabled, I can answer the call, but I can't
hang them up.

     It's just another annoyance to add to the list of things that
aren't right with the MA application-- at least on the My Touch 4G
Slide.

     Cheers
     Dan G

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Steve Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
     Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 07:37 AM
     To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'
     Subject: [MA] Answering A Call

     Hi All,

     I can make a phone call with my Android HTC EVO using MA.  My
question How do you answer a call when receding one?  I have the
using volume buttons checked to answer and hang up the call.  When
pressing either of these keys, it just silences the phone.  Also,
when the phone is in the lock position, I can answer the call by
just moving my finger up the screen.  My problem comes when I am
within MA and receive the call that I can't figure out how to
answer the phone.  Thanks in advance for your help and I hope this
is clear.

     Steve Cook

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