In reading this message, I wonder what you mean by "iphone, trictly
swipe"? I don't want to jump to conclusions or accuse before knowing
what you meant, but I can't figure out what you could mean and I hope
you have your facts straight before saying something about something
you want to bash. I don't know of any "strictly swipe" about anything
on the IPhone, particularly in the context of handeling calls, as is
being talked about here.

On 11/10/11, Dusty Tague <[email protected]> wrote:
> No one is covering up for code factory, since many phones still work,
> the problem isn't with code factory, it is with Google allowing
> fragmentation.  Set a standard and Code Factory will either meet it or
> go away.  Frankly, I see MA as the best of the alternatives, windows
> phone 7, inaccessible, iPhone, strictly swipe.  Blackberry and Symbian,
> on their way out.  Do I wish code factory was more on top of things yes,
> should they be more responsive to their customers, yes.  If I replace my
> version of the Android operating system with ice cream sandwich and it
> works out of the box on all native apps and feels smooth and easy to
> use, unless code factory wows me, I will walk away and not look back.
> actually you most likely will be notified of a release as someone will
> post it here.  In addition, you will get a notification that updates are
> available.  Keep the faith.  swiping and tapping isn't that bad.
>
> On 11/10/2011 7:36 PM, Nick Zammarelli wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but we need to stop covering for Code Factory on these
>> issues. Last summer, we thought it was just an issue with HTC phones,
>> but we now know that it goes much deeper. I have an LG enlighten,
>> which I love, but I cannot answer or reject calls using the volume
>> keys. Dan is right, why should we have to swipe to answer a call when
>> the phone is locked but have to find the answer button when the phone
>> is in use. It was easy for Code Factory to lay blame with just one
>> manufacturer, but clearly this is not the case, and now we all know
>> that. Hopefully, a new version of Mobile Accessibility is coming soon
>> that addresses all these issues. Of course, even if this is so, we'll
>> never know this, because Code Factory never tells us anything.On
>> 11/10/2011 2:36 PM, Dusty Tague wrote:
>>> It is not just code factory at fault, it is android for allowing
>>> fragmentation to occur making this a problem.  I think I can honestly
>>> say that for some the simplicity and continuity makes the iPhone  a
>>> better purchase.  The reason I said generally is that the
>>> manufacturers aren't always consistent in labeling buttons and
>>> placing them in the same location, but I have found that there are
>>> few exceptions to this and differ according to the particular app.
>>> That is the problem with a one size fits all approach on a fragmented
>>> platform.  It is a shame that t-mobile doesn't offer the iPhone. You
>>> could try the sidekick 4g, or the lg my touch q, check the keyboard
>>> first to make sure, and see if that would be a better phone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2011 12:22 PM, dan greene wrote:
>>>> That may be true, but on the MyTouch 4G Slide, with MA running,
>>>> sometimes the trackpad works for arrowing down and to the side, and
>>>> sometimes it does not.
>>>> And, now forgive me if this sounds argumentative, it should not take
>>>> me 3 or more gestures to hang up the phone.
>>>> And, again being argumentative, why should there be one procedure
>>>> for answering/disconnecting the phone when it's waking up, and
>>>> another when the phone is awake as the call comes in?
>>>> And, finally, if the phone is still against my ear when I try to
>>>> hang up, it's usually displaying a different screen than if I move
>>>> it away from my ear--something CF  seems to forget to tell users in
>>>> its, so-called, manual.
>>>> I laughed out loud when I read your sentence that contained the
>>>> words "generally works".
>>>> Generally works????  I just spent over $300 for a phone, and CF
>>>> wants over another $100 for this software.  Seems to me that things
>>>> should be a bit better than "generally works".
>>>> And CF should support its users better, instead of canned responses
>>>> to their problem reports.
>>>> I certainly mean no disrespect to you,  I thank you for responding,
>>>> but I've spent almost a week trying to help my wife learn this new
>>>> phone, and the inconsistency of operations, and the absolute lack of
>>>> support from CF, is unbelievable.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dan G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     *From:* [email protected]
>>>>     [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dusty
>>>> Tague
>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:03 AM
>>>>     *To:* Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>>>>     *Cc:* Steve Cook
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [MA] Answering A Call
>>>>
>>>>     Dan, if you can answer a call in system screens, you can hang up,
>>>>     either arrow down once and to the right once and you should be on
>>>>     the correct button.  Another approach, also when using system call
>>>>     screens is to tap the screen to the right of where you tap to
>>>>     answer, not on the right side of the screen but more to the left
>>>>     side of middle.
>>>>       Both these approaches generally work on most phones regardless
>>>>     of manufacture as long as they have physical navigation controls.
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/10/2011 9:05 AM, Steve Cook wrote:
>>>>>     Thanks for this information Dan.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Steve Cook
>>>>>     Assistive Technology Consultant
>>>>>     SC Commission for the Blind
>>>>>     1430 Confederate Avenue
>>>>>     Columbia, SC 29201
>>>>>     Office: (803) 898-8788
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>>>>>
>>>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>>>     From:[email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:14 AM
>>>>>     To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>>>>>     Subject: Re: [MA] Answering A Call
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I have similar problems with the My Touch 4G Slide.
>>>>>     When your phone is awake as a call comes in, there doesn't seem
>>>>> to be any way to answer the call using MA.
>>>>>     the swipe up doesn't work, just increases the ringer volume,
>>>>> and, like you, the volume keys just silence the ringer.
>>>>>     I haven't tried answering one call, while on another--the
>>>>> manual says just a swipe up will answer,  I tend to doubt that now.
>>>>>     You can try using the system call screen, (it's selected by a
>>>>> checkbox in the MA settings/advanced dialog box) but I found that
>>>>> option even worse.
>>>>>     With that screen enabled, I can answer the call, but I can't
>>>>> hang them up.
>>>>>
>>>>>     It's just another annoyance to add to the list of things that
>>>>> aren't right with the MA application-- at least on the My Touch 4G
>>>>> Slide.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Cheers
>>>>>     Dan G
>>>>>
>>>>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>     From: Steve Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 07:37 AM
>>>>>>     To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'
>>>>>>     Subject: [MA] Answering A Call
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I can make a phone call with my Android HTC EVO using MA.  My
>>>>>> question How do you answer a call when receding one?  I have the
>>>>>> using volume buttons checked to answer and hang up the call.  When
>>>>>> pressing either of these keys, it just silences the phone.  Also,
>>>>>> when the phone is in the lock position, I can answer the call by
>>>>>> just moving my finger up the screen.  My problem comes when I am
>>>>>> within MA and receive the call that I can't figure out how to
>>>>>> answer the phone.  Thanks in advance for your help and I hope this
>>>>>> is clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Steve Cook
>>>>>>
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