dusty can you please email me off list? I have A question my email address is dvdrln 766. at ge mail.com On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:31:33 -0700, Dusty Tague wrote:
>Actually James, I work with both devices, so am familiar with what I >speak. By strictly swipe, I mean, strictly use the touch screen as >opposed to built-in hardware based directional controls. We are not >talking about Bluetooth accessories like keyboards and portable mice, we >are talking about the basic phone. In this sense, if you have to use >the touch screen you are strictly "swiping". I hope this clears it up >for you. > > > >On 11/11/2011 10:15 AM, James Mannion wrote: >>In reading this message, I wonder what you mean by "iphone, trictly >>swipe"? I don't want to jump to conclusions or accuse before knowing >>what you meant, but I can't figure out what you could mean and I hope >>you have your facts straight before saying something about something >>you want to bash. I don't know of any "strictly swipe" about anything >>on the IPhone, particularly in the context of handeling calls, as is >>being talked about here. >> >>On 11/10/11, Dusty Tague<[email protected]> wrote: >>>No one is covering up for code factory, since many phones still work, >>>the problem isn't with code factory, it is with Google allowing >>>fragmentation. Set a standard and Code Factory will either meet it or >>>go away. Frankly, I see MA as the best of the alternatives, windows >>>phone 7, inaccessible, iPhone, strictly swipe. Blackberry and Symbian, >>>on their way out. Do I wish code factory was more on top of things yes, >>>should they be more responsive to their customers, yes. If I replace my >>>version of the Android operating system with ice cream sandwich and it >>>works out of the box on all native apps and feels smooth and easy to >>>use, unless code factory wows me, I will walk away and not look back. >>>actually you most likely will be notified of a release as someone will >>>post it here. In addition, you will get a notification that updates are >>>available. Keep the faith. swiping and tapping isn't that bad. >>> >>>On 11/10/2011 7:36 PM, Nick Zammarelli wrote: >>>>I'm sorry, but we need to stop covering for Code Factory on these >>>>issues. Last summer, we thought it was just an issue with HTC phones, >>>>but we now know that it goes much deeper. I have an LG enlighten, >>>>which I love, but I cannot answer or reject calls using the volume >>>>keys. Dan is right, why should we have to swipe to answer a call when >>>>the phone is locked but have to find the answer button when the phone >>>>is in use. It was easy for Code Factory to lay blame with just one >>>>manufacturer, but clearly this is not the case, and now we all know >>>>that. Hopefully, a new version of Mobile Accessibility is coming soon >>>>that addresses all these issues. Of course, even if this is so, we'll >>>>never know this, because Code Factory never tells us anything.On >>>>11/10/2011 2:36 PM, Dusty Tague wrote: >>>>>It is not just code factory at fault, it is android for allowing >>>>>fragmentation to occur making this a problem. I think I can honestly >>>>>say that for some the simplicity and continuity makes the iPhone a >>>>>better purchase. The reason I said generally is that the >>>>>manufacturers aren't always consistent in labeling buttons and >>>>>placing them in the same location, but I have found that there are >>>>>few exceptions to this and differ according to the particular app. >>>>>That is the problem with a one size fits all approach on a fragmented >>>>>platform. It is a shame that t-mobile doesn't offer the iPhone. You >>>>>could try the sidekick 4g, or the lg my touch q, check the keyboard >>>>>first to make sure, and see if that would be a better phone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 11/10/2011 12:22 PM, dan greene wrote: >>>>>>That may be true, but on the MyTouch 4G Slide, with MA running, >>>>>>sometimes the trackpad works for arrowing down and to the side, and >>>>>>sometimes it does not. >>>>>>And, now forgive me if this sounds argumentative, it should not take >>>>>>me 3 or more gestures to hang up the phone. >>>>>>And, again being argumentative, why should there be one procedure >>>>>>for answering/disconnecting the phone when it's waking up, and >>>>>>another when the phone is awake as the call comes in? >>>>>>And, finally, if the phone is still against my ear when I try to >>>>>>hang up, it's usually displaying a different screen than if I move >>>>>>it away from my ear--something CF seems to forget to tell users in >>>>>>its, so-called, manual. >>>>>>I laughed out loud when I read your sentence that contained the >>>>>>words "generally works". >>>>>>Generally works???? I just spent over $300 for a phone, and CF >>>>>>wants over another $100 for this software. Seems to me that things >>>>>>should be a bit better than "generally works". >>>>>>And CF should support its users better, instead of canned responses >>>>>>to their problem reports. >>>>>>I certainly mean no disrespect to you, I thank you for responding, >>>>>>but I've spent almost a week trying to help my wife learn this new >>>>>>phone, and the inconsistency of operations, and the absolute lack of >>>>>>support from CF, is unbelievable. >>>>>>Cheers >>>>>>Dan G >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>*From:* [email protected] >>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dusty >>>>>>Tague >>>>>>*Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:03 AM >>>>>>*To:* Mobile Accessibility Android Users List >>>>>>*Cc:* Steve Cook >>>>>>*Subject:* Re: [MA] Answering A Call >>>>>> >>>>>>Dan, if you can answer a call in system screens, you can hang up, >>>>>>either arrow down once and to the right once and you should be on >>>>>>the correct button. Another approach, also when using system call >>>>>>screens is to tap the screen to the right of where you tap to >>>>>>answer, not on the right side of the screen but more to the left >>>>>>side of middle. >>>>>>Both these approaches generally work on most phones regardless >>>>>>of manufacture as long as they have physical navigation controls. >>>>>> >>>>>>On 11/10/2011 9:05 AM, Steve Cook wrote: >>>>>>>Thanks for this information Dan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Steve Cook >>>>>>>Assistive Technology Consultant >>>>>>>SC Commission for the Blind >>>>>>>1430 Confederate Avenue >>>>>>>Columbia, SC 29201 >>>>>>>Office: (803) 898-8788 >>>>>>>Fax: (803) 898-8882 >>>>>>>E-Mail:[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From:[email protected] >>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:14 AM >>>>>>>To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [MA] Answering A Call >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have similar problems with the My Touch 4G Slide. >>>>>>>When your phone is awake as a call comes in, there doesn't seem >>>>>>>to be any way to answer the call using MA. >>>>>>>the swipe up doesn't work, just increases the ringer volume, >>>>>>>and, like you, the volume keys just silence the ringer. >>>>>>>I haven't tried answering one call, while on another--the >>>>>>>manual says just a swipe up will answer, I tend to doubt that now. >>>>>>>You can try using the system call screen, (it's selected by a >>>>>>>checkbox in the MA settings/advanced dialog box) but I found that >>>>>>>option even worse. >>>>>>>With that screen enabled, I can answer the call, but I can't >>>>>>>hang them up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's just another annoyance to add to the list of things that >>>>>>>aren't right with the MA application-- at least on the My Touch 4G >>>>>>>Slide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers >>>>>>>Dan G >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: Steve Cook [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 07:37 AM >>>>>>>>To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List' >>>>>>>>Subject: [MA] Answering A Call >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I can make a phone call with my Android HTC EVO using MA. My >>>>>>>>question How do you answer a call when receding one? I have the >>>>>>>>using volume buttons checked to answer and hang up the call. When >>>>>>>>pressing either of these keys, it just silences the phone. Also, >>>>>>>>when the phone is in the lock position, I can answer the call by >>>>>>>>just moving my finger up the screen. My problem comes when I am >>>>>>>>within MA and receive the call that I can't figure out how to >>>>>>>>answer the phone. 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