Gone! Wasn't aware it shouldn't be up there.. On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:17, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> You can just edit the dictionary and see if that works. I do that a a lot. > for words the tI know it will mispronounce, like my name lol! and it read the > dates and times correctly in that message btw and I"m using the default > voices. > On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> >> On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Gordon, >>> >>> This is something that the Infovox voices do, not Apple's. In fact, if you >>> switch to a voice by Apple, Alex or others do not interpret this wrongly. >>> I'm guessing in some places this is another way to format the dates, and >>> VoiceOver does not always govern how information is interpreted >> >> I beg to differ. >> Apple's nasty habbit of saying what it thinks you want to hear instead of >> what's actually written on the screen has cost me many hours of work over >> the years. >> There's no reason for voices to say Sunday just because someone is talking >> about the sun, and the word just happens to be at the end of the sentence. >> Check out your particular voice says the following, (different voices and >> different os versions will pronounce these differently) >> Sat, sun, VOL, ->, :), ;), STEGOSAURUS, ST, AVE, RD, DR, PL, Wed, Tue, Pt, >> TWENTY-SIX, TWENTY-FIVE (You get the idea >> (and how about roman numerals, >> I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, >> XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, (you get >> the idea) It's nice that roman numerals are pronounced as numbers, but >> sometimes, they're not supposed to be. >> I can't tell you how many times Apple has told me something was on the >> screen that wasn't, that wasted either debugging time, or confusion over >> sorting order, filenames, and other various issues that crop up as a result >> of having things spoken that weren't there. >> Of course, this isn't new, the apple II used to do this too. The Echo synth >> used to say tangent when it ran across the letters T A N. I can't tell you >> how many of my summer computer camp students were confused because of the >> apple claiming there was a tangent rat in their game. >> I for one don't mind figuring out what is intended myself, instead of having >> the synthesizer speak something that may or may not be what's intended. >> I'm very very strongly of the opinion that a screen reader should read >> what's on the screen, and leave the interpreting of that info up to the user. >> Apple's method of trying to do this for you is irritating, and at times >> downright wrong, costing time and effort to try to figure out what's really >> meant. I've asked for a toggle to have this behavior turned off/on at need, >> (I'd leave it off all the time) but apple has seen fit to ignore such >> requests. >> I much prefer to hear what's there, not what someone thinks is there. >> I've had to work with my 6-year old daughter, and 9-year old son to get them >> to do the same, read what's on the page, not what you think is there. Yeah, >> perhaps it's a bit more effort for the reader, and maybe it's (slightly) >> confusing, but I'd much rather know what's actually there, not someone's >> interpretation of what it is. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> [email protected] >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> Dónal Fitzpatrick [email protected] <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. 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