Hi Eric, 
Am Sun, 27 May 2007 11:06:48 +0200 schrieb eric b:
>> But by any means I wanted to abdanon the OOo quality! So I'm O.K.
>> if it takes another week to get the first "official" aqua build
>> out. We only have to communicate it all the right way and we need
>> to be honest in communication.
> 
> 
> This is *exactly* what I asked : prepare everything quietly, and 
> prepare the servers, because the load will be high, you can 
> believe me.
> 
> But one week only, not more. What is the problem at the end ?

I think the problem, if you want to call it so, is that currently 
we don't have a common sense on what to release as first alpha or 
to be more specific, which requirements and tasks are needed 
*before* releasing a first public alpha/devolpment snapshot/call it 
whatever you like to. 

So we need to make a to-do list. E.g.:

1. Give the build a self explanatory name - avoid that end-users 
take this as a final.

2. Write a short Readme

3. Make a list of known issues

4. Prepare a page/text file that tells the end-user where to report 
issues

5. If neccessary provide a short how-to on Issuezialla, especially 
that the issues need to be assigned to our "dummy" user and not to 
ericb.

Please add what's missing. 

>> We're not allowed to make promises
>> we cannot keep.
> 
> 
> What do you mean with that ?

E.g. tell the end-user this is the final look and feel or that he 
can use it as a productive version, that there is "support" for 
this version on the user-mailinglist etc. We need to make it clear 
this is a *real* alpha and by no means a stable version for your 
daily work and that we give no guarantee for data losses if he uses 
this version as his daily productive one. 

> aquavcl01 and aquafilpicker01 are *real*, and my changes are 
> commited (means in aquavcl01 now).

Thanks. I believe you. 
 
> Just the process to integrate them su... , and will need 2 weeks 
> (at least), *starting from the day* we will start the integration 
> (please retain we started to discuss the 25th May, and nothing 
> has been done yet ...) .

So basicly we need to teams.

Team 1. Prepare the Readmes, How-Tos, websites etc so that the devs 
in team 2 can focus on their stuff

Team 2: Start integrating cws aquanativefilepicker01 into master 
workspace and resync aquavcl01 with most current milestone. 

Once this is done we can start with a basic *intern* QA of this 
build - you'll never know if the current milestone is a good or bad 
one for aquavcl01 before you resync aquavcl01 and did a first build 
- and if no regressions compared to the state we currently have are 
found, release aqua OOo Alpha to the public. 

> To be honest, I'm *not optimistic* at all, *one week only*  will 
> be sufficient, and this delay won't help for our credibility.
> 
> That's the main reason why I proposed my builds :  we control the delay.

If this is o.k. with the others I would second this but we need to 
make sure that this is a one time exception and won't make the 
rule. 

Kind regards, 
Eric Hoch

-- 
## de.OpenOffice.org - Office für MacOS X, Linux, Solaris & Windows
## Openoffice.org - ich steck mit drin!

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reply via email to