2007/7/30, Eric Hoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I has a discussion with Bernhard Dippold and Florent Effenberger > > about a contest that I want to organize in order to promote > > OpenOffice.org to the Mac community. > > > > I would like to have your opinion about the current draft. > > > > The title of the contest might be : > > "Design the best interface mockup ever for Aqua version of > > OpenOffice.org" > > > > What would be expected to be provided by participants : > > Screens of their wanted UI for the main windows and interface > > elements of OpenOffice (i.e. for the main window will be a drawing of > > the entire window, how it looks like, what there is in it, how the > > user interact with, etc.) > > No need to do so. Almost everything for the Mac is accurately > defined by Apple and can be found here > < > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Accessibility-date.html > > > where the Apple Human Interface Guidelines > < > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/index.html > > > are the most important document to read.
I know these, but they don't describe the design of the interface. These are just aqua related guidelines. This is in fact what I called Aqua Integration criteria. It is not the whole interface. The only think I can imagine of is a better suited Icon set for the > Mac but Tango - once translated is close to this. I will be rude, but I don't really care about eye-candy icon set. I am a bit more ambitious. >> I am aware that more details should be added here. > >> > >> This contest is firstly marketing, and then a source of idea that > >> should be profitable for OpenOffice.org on all platforms, not only > >> Aqua, even if the contest is mainly targetted to Aqua peoples. > > If it's firstly about marketing. Forget it! At least you are > honest. It should be about giving Mac users what they expect. Are you saying that these both goals are incompatible ? Maybe you didn't understood what is behind marketing. I say that mainly because, we cannot guarantee that work will be automatically integrated as it. However, I intend to make it a guideline which will complete Aqua ones but specific to OpenOffice.org. A HIG conform OOo and not a we use the hype about Mac OOo and squeeze out > the last drop out of it before it's too late. Sorry, I didn't get your point. Can you be more clear ? >> The criterias for selection might be : > >> - Aqua Integration > >> - Innovation > >> - Productivity > >> - Appeal > >> - Work licensed under LGPL > >> > >> The process might be : > >> - Mockup submission for two weeks (mainly general and functional > >> ideas) > >> - Jury deliberating for selection of the 3, 5 of 10 best mockups > > Will there be any qualified designers, employees from Apple or > comparable mac addicted companies in the jury which decides this? If some want to join, I will be happy to integrate them in the jury. Do you have any contact ? Or at least professional Mac users Yes. or only linux, windows, solaris > guys who claim to know how the Mac works because they once sat in > front of one? No. >> - User vote > > >> The objectives are the following : > >> - Communicate on the Aqua OpenOffice.org port differently than > >> using the traditionnal developement/update announces > > It's not different at all. It is. O.K. we've had some discussions on this > and they are not settled down but currently we try to go back to > traditionell OOo development release and release milestones without > hacks on a regular base. What is the relationship between this and my contest ? A first step is done hopefully Eric B and > Pavel agree on this any time soon. I am working with them. Eric was very enthusiast about the project. >> - Communicate about our willing to have the best interface for our > >> Office suite. > > See above if you want the best Interface for OOo on the Mac - > simply follow HIG, even if this means to write a complete new one > mac only :-) > > >> There is no any warranty for the winner. And I believe that the whole > >> set of ideas of the winner won't be integrated, but mostly part of it > >> (and probably not only the ideas of the winner). However, this should > >> be discussed with the UI team. > > Why should any serious designer contest if his work won't be > integrated? I hope it will, but I am not a decision maker. I can't say it will if I can't guarantee it. For a second time you reveal your true intentions. It's > really all PR and marketing and not about giving Mac users a HIG > conform GUI. Please do not think for me. And please don't insult me. >> What would be possible: An Aqua theme for the UI (and behaviours) - > > please contact Ismael he currently works on a mac friendly OOo > design and should know about HIG etc. As a Carbon, Cocoa developer for nearly 5 years, AppleScript, HyperTalk for 15 years and enthusiast Mac user since 20 years. I should know about HIG.
