On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Clément Pillias <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Clément, thank you for your response. > What kind of document? An API reference for developers? Or guidelines > dedicated to people in charge of choosing a shortcut for some feature? I mean some guideline, which contains info like this - shortcuts must [not] be same for all platforms, etc. And as you stated below, no document like this exists. > Concerning guidelines, it seems that there is currently no guideline for > shortcuts. We have discussed recently on the UX list the eventuality to > compare Human Interface Guidelines from major platforms, and to write our > own. Since it is a very big work, it has not been started yet, but maybe we > could begin with shortcuts... It would be nice. What's the general idea? Platform specific shortcuts? General shortcuts for all platforms? >From this point of view, it has no sense to work on shortcuts issues until some rules will be there. All these issue are UI relevant, they have to be reviewed by UX team and if there's no document with specific rules who knows how my potential work can end? Accepted, throwed away, ... I can offer you my help on Mac side. > I don't know. But every shortcut change should be very carefully done, > because it can be very frustrating for the user… Yes, you're right. But I think that more frustrating is that Cmd-M doesn't minimize window on Mac. I agree that it should be done carefully, but all possible Apple HIGs' shortcuts should be supported as well. > I fully agree with that. But please note that every time the User Interface > is made platform-specific, it has a big impact on documentation and > translation work… I know, but because it has a big impact we shouldn't stop it. These shortcuts issues are annoying and they must be fixed in some way, especially for Mac people. Lets say that this is big issue for Mac people from usability POV. IMHO Mac users are not switching platforms in extensive way like Windows / Linux people. Second group uses Windows at work, Linux at home and they probably care about shortcuts and if they are same they're happy. But Mac people use Macs because of usability (and other reasons) and if there's an application which breaks well known habbits, they're unhappy. What I'm trying to say is - personally I don't care how big impact on documentation, translation (don't take it wrong, with full respect to these people) this change will have. I do care about usability and platform specific rules. > As I stated above, not yet. But I would like to see some collaboration > between User Experience and Mac Porting teams, here. As I wrote, I'm offering my help. > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_Keyboard_Shortcuts Well, as a first step, I'll go through all shortcuts and will update this page. -- Robert Vojta --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
