Okay, something is up. Should suffice until after thanksgiving, at least :-)
2011/11/17 Chris DiBona <[email protected]>: > That seems reasonable, I'll put something up after lunch. > > Chris > > On Nov 17, 2011 11:27 AM, "Péter Szabó" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> You are absolutely right. >> >> However, I think _minimal_ cooperation --like updating the project home to >> reflect the project status-- is something the original project owner or >> Google could help the world with. >> The web is full of links directing people here, who will not find the >> information they need. >> >> A simple note on the project home saying that >> * macfuse is not being actively maintained anymore, and >> * the list archive contains links to alternatives >> could have saved some time for me, and maybe for a lot of other people... >> not to mention the guys answering the Lion compatibility question twice a >> week :-). >> >> Best Regards, >> Péter >> >> >> On 2011.11.17., at 19:45, Chris DiBona wrote: >> >> >> I don't list any of the others because I personally only track one >> >> list, OSXFUSE, whilst I know there are quite a few alternatives out >> >> there that are better documented elsewhere on this increasingly spam >> >> filled list. I'd rather people make their own mind up on which fork to >> >> follow as each has their own ethos and objectives. >> > >> > Ok. So it's okay for people to fork, good! >> > >> >> And a project in a stalled state for three years actively blocking >> >> those who wish to make it work on an operating system that is now a >> >> couple of months old and for the 64-bit native versions of the prior >> >> release of said operating system (2009, around the same era as the >> >> last release really) is rather much a PITA. One year? Sure, ok, busy. >> > >> > After a year, someone should have forked it, obviously. What's the >> > problem with this? This isn't about good vs evil. >> > >> >> Two years? Perhaps time to look at things. Three years? Accept you're >> >> not going to get back to it and move on or support those who wish to >> >> help you out. I don't think forking after trying to recover a project >> >> and having a company that prides itself on doing no evil and open >> >> source step in the way instead of helping to facilitate the >> >> improvement of that open source venture. >> > >> > Again, open source doesn't mean 'we do whatever Sam Moffat wants' or >> > even 'we maintain a piece of software for x years' it doesn't even >> > mean that we commit to naming successor projects. It does mean that >> > people can fork the software if they don't like how it runs or how the >> > project is being run. There isn't anything wrong with that and that's >> > why we release under real open source licenses. >> > >> > Similarly, It isn't an open source 'venture'. It's a project. We've >> > released something like 3k of them, not all of them are successful, >> > fewer are under continuous development and fewer still are popular >> > enough to warrant restaffing after a developer has moved on. Open >> > sourcing something doesn't mean that the original developer has to >> > continue to work on it until their last dying breath. It's okay for >> > developers to move on, and it is similarly okay to ask that the >> > project that is left behind isn't handed over to another and that they >> > can fork if they don't like it. >> > >> >> Realistically the point of this place at the moment is to keep people >> >> up and running with the lights on answering the posts directing >> >> traffic and to continue to defend that Google didn't maliciously put >> >> this software on their computer secret but most likely some other >> >> application did it but just never told you or to explain why >> >> com.google.macfuse is crashing on their system after upgrading to >> >> Lion. Oh and to get spam because that never gets old >> > >> > I'm not going to begin to parse this, or reply further to this thread. >> > Please fork this project and tell people where to find it. >> > >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Sam Moffatt >> >> http://pasamio.id.au >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Chris DiBona <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> It's not evil for a developer to wish to maintain a project even in a >> >>> stalled state. Nor is it evil to fork a project you see as being dead. >> >>> So, please fork the code, and do wonderful work with it. Why don't you >> >>> list some of the lists so that those who are interested can go check >> >>> out those lists? >> >>> >> >>> Chris >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Sam Moffatt <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> MacFUSE has been abandoned by it's owner for quite a long time. An >> >>>> attempt to recover the project was made but Google in their infinite >> >>>> wisdom reverted this because it was originally developed by a Googler >> >>>> and returned the project back to said Googler ensuring that MacFUSE >> >>>> as >> >>>> a name will die due to lack of interest from the owner. Do no evil >> >>>> right? >> >>>> >> >>>> If you don't want spam, I'd suggest signing up to the lists of one of >> >>>> the forked projects instead which are actively maintained and not >> >>>> being ignored. >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Sam Moffatt >> >>>> http://pasamio.id.au >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Paul Eipper <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> Is there a mod of this list that can clean the spam out by >> >>>>> kicking/banning the spammer accounts? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Paul Eipper >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>> Groups "MacFUSE" group. >> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?hl=en. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Director of Open Source, Google Inc. >> >>> Our open source and developer programs can be found at >> >>> http://code.google.com >> >>> Site, Bio, Pics: http://dibona.com Google Plus: http://goo.gl/MRK6a >> >>> Twitter: @cdibona >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Director of Open Source, Google Inc. >> > Our open source and developer programs can be found at >> > http://code.google.com >> > Site, Bio, Pics: http://dibona.com Google Plus: http://goo.gl/MRK6a >> > Twitter: @cdibona >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "MacFUSE" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/macfuse?hl=en. >> > >> > -- Director of Open Source, Google Inc. 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