Marta it is easier with Mac's to trouble shoot because we all have similar 
machines and similar software updates.
Windows is much harder with all the different components and the registry 
problems when programs fight over .dll files.


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marta Edie
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:33 AM
To: Macintosh topics
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Mike Watkins reply

It occurred to me this morning that with all these new and overcomplicated 
issues we have in software and hardware and screens  flat and rounded, shiny 
and dull , and laptops and disks and tapes and old records and 78th left and 
45th hanging around, too, containing stuff we want to preserve not knowing 
whichever way to do this best ,or do that best ,and with wires and wireless 
stuff in a world  using just letters instead of words and have numbers in the 
bellies of those many beasts, --- it occurred to me that I am glad that my 
future is short. They will have to burn me and throw my ashes back into the 
ground--- imagine ashes, plain ashes, not mummified bodies, nor bodies fit with 
earphones or certain motors to walk in the heavens keeping track whether the 
rest of the family is doing what I think it is supposed to do here on earth 
fiddling and piddling with mice and trackpads , incapable of making coffee on 
an overcomplicated machine ,
it occurred to me as I was looking at one of my very old phones, with that 
rotary dial, with a button to make the ring louder and one switch to louden the 
speech in the receiver !!- what a blessing that was for us who now try to 
simplify our lives and get back to basics.
I feel sorry for all those who are to help us in our dilemmas when we don't get 
to the internet, when our computers strike and our world caves in --- How 
anybody is to stay on top of all of it? I don't see how they can. Maybe the 
world will come to an end as nobody seems to be able to halt the global 
expansion into infinity with people not knowing how to harness it all- like the 
sorcerers apprentice  of global proportions  ------everything ending in a big 
bang as they say it all started.

This is my thought for the day.-- Thanks to our group who is willing and able 
to handle our small communal problems, since we still are able to communicate 
them in words and  language  we all still have in common and therefore are able 
to explain our difficulties.  Amen!


Marta




On Mar 9, 2009, at 08:57 am, Ed Wiser wrote:


Since this is a new and beta issue sometimes AppleCare tech's might not have 
update trouble shooting guides. They do work off of cheat sheets. The one thing 
with software now day Web browsers are used in many pieces of software that you 
might not realize. The core components  are used in Mail and many other 
programs to display information and can cause problems because of this 
interaction.


From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Watkins
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Macintosh topics
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Mike Watkins reply

My Dear Ed,

I truly thank you for clearing this up for me! One would suppose that the 
AppleCare tech reps would have known about that and realized that it couldn't 
be fixed by their methods! Our group often seems to be more on target tan 
AppleCare. However,I am still grateful; to have the AppleCare available to me, 
just in case.

You told me it was the fault of my new Safari 4 install; but I didn't realize 
it actually was happening to others. I was wondering if you had the same 
problem. You, and Marta, have replied that you both do. Plus, you sent the 
Apple-Support_Discussions as examples. I appreciate all your trouble.

When you were trying to get your e-mail to me. I was probably in the midst of 
trying to straighten out more of the mess the AppleCare people left me. in. I 
hope and believe I am done now. It was more screwed up than I had first 
realized, and it took me many experiments to get all functions back.

Sincerely thankful,
Mike Watkins


On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:



Mike you sent me an email with a bellsouth account of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

this bounces back as a not our user error.

My reply to your email which is about how Safari 4 has messed up saving your 
email to the desktop is:

 The link I sent with the reply was to show you others are having the problem. 
I too can not save an email to my desktop though I never do such a thing I 
tried it after you posted the question.
It is a well documented problem on Apples message-board.
I would uninstall Safari 4 if this is something you do all the time. I practice 
zero email box
so I try and deal with the emails straight away most of my emails are questions 
from students or mailing lists.

Apple - Support - Discussions - mail app won't save a message to .rtf 
...<http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1921873&tstart=0>Apple - 
Support - Discussions - Apparent BUG - Can't Save Emails 
...<http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9060670&%239060670>
Apple - Support - Discussions - Safari 4 Beta and impact on Mail. 
...<http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9092370&%239092370>Apple 
- Support - Discussions - Apple Mail and Safari 4 Beta 
...<http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9098806&%239098806>

Plus 7 other pages on Mail and Safari 4.

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