Hello, Sounds good but I was not being too harsh on Seeed Studio from my perspective. I guess people get busy and languages collide at times. I can chalk up the issues over the years to that idea.
... Nothing is perfect and I may be in limbo but I think the Cape should have, from what I understand, a couple drivers (four or five) for handling heavy motors. I mean, why purchase a ton of extra equipment when the BBAI and Cape can handle it? Seth P.S. And sir, I am not by any means telling you or the rest of the community to not purchase products from Seeed Studio. That is not my aim. I just wanted more communication and less typos without explanations. Now, are we looking for specific drivers or do you have any in mind? I mean, is it okay to "quarrel" about this issue or is anything set in stone? I would like to help find some drivers that are easily accessible, i.e. 120v? I know the replicape handles 24 volts but may be a little too small in wattage for what this group may want. I am not speaking for anyone outside of myself, I guess. If that is too much to inquire over, that is okay. I steadily give out info. when I can on specific BBB related issues and ideas. "Take the good w/ the bad, supposedly." Sounds good. On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 4:05:14 PM UTC-5, Jason Kridner wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:59 PM Mala Dies <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am a novice in most fields of study regarding brushless stepper motors >> and drives. If anything, I think allowing people like me, the novices in >> this category, to establish as domain in the field with not only hardware >> but a temporary to permanent wiki support would be what Open Source >> initiatives are made of currently. >> >> ... >> >> I know about Machinekit and how it offers specific uses to users like me. >> Although, and this is the truth, I have not used Machinekit with my >> RepliCape, I have been wanting to test out these images for use in a >> particular manner. >> >> >> - Key Takeaways >> - Ease of use >> - Open Source Hardware and Source (the BBB.io persons' ways) >> - An updated Wiki of ideas all relative to this specific hardware, >> source, and middleware >> - Stated Opinions >> - Although my opinions may fall short of technological at times, >> ease of use is always a need >> - I would make lists and hold a meeting >> - Hardware >> - Source (Machinekit)? >> - Wiki (who will have advanced knowledge to pick apart the >> wiki)? >> >> Now...I am sure Seeed Studio can handle, w/ the current state of >> machinery, the needs of me, myself, and I (and other users like me too). >> >> But... >> >> So, sockets or pins or connections: >> >> >> - I say that actual connections should be made outside of the screw >> terminals, i.e. either soldered or a terminal block that is severely >> equipped to handle people moving around the machinery and electronics. >> - I also say that there should be a couple of people at least that >> are dedicated to the project, e.g. more knowledgeable people than I on >> these subjects. >> - I also say that the computer needs to be the source of the UX, GUI, >> UI, or whatever we call them these days. >> >> ... >> >> Now...I am not affiliated but I am definitely a community member that has >> "outlandish" goals for specific projects. I have been here since the A5C >> BBB. I think it has been since 2014/15. >> >> Why am I telling you these ideas and reaching out? >> >> >> 1. I have seen specific ideas go to waste and not catch any ideas >> from other community members on many of the Capes produced. >> 2. Either the Capes produced, were before my time, circa '14/'15, or >> I have been paying less attention to what is needed regarding the Capes. >> 3. I think the Capes are a big part of the community and ideas >> circulating are more than a start. >> >> I hate to down Seeed Studio because of their popularity and ease of >> motive to act on making nice equipment but... >> >> Sometimes, I think because of their wikis not being updated frequently, >> people lose interest or find that support is not viable for them. >> >> I have been to the Seeed Studio wiki many times in my life and sometimes >> I have been rewarded for asking for support. Other times, the community was >> more needy than I and I had to provide what I learned. >> >> All I am typing here is that interest gets lost when people are not >> updating due to whatever reason. Do you or do we want another Cape to get >> lost attention when it is a piece of GOLD? >> > > Let's look to Seeed for what we know Seeed is good at. They do good design > work, they manufacture on-time at good prices at varying volumes for long > periods of time, if given the right constraints of a well-defined > functionality they do good quality control, they solve difficult component > challenges with good visibility into what is available and they work well > in the open source world as information is requested from them they give > very freely. That said, they aren't Machinekit experts and this community > would be educating them on that. Documentation on using Machinekit should > be coming from the Machinekit community and documentation around new > hardware should be done in a way that meets this community's standards. I'm > asking if we can work together to leverage Seeed's strengths to solve a > gap--the gap of while there are lots of cool solutions around BeagleBone > and Machinekit, the add-on hardware to make them is not readily available > in distribution with ready-to-go software images. > > Sound good? > > >> >> Seth >> >> P.S. Now, I understand that beagleboard.org is not a major subsidiary of >> Lexus or whatever large company. I am not talking about 24/7 support by way >> of email, phone, chat, and face time or live meetings online and in person. >> I would ask but I am too scared. Anyway, please try to make this venture w/ >> ease of access in mind, sturdy (durable) power and pin connectors, and w/ >> access to extra i2c pins on the AI if they are indeed available by way of >> Machinekit. Phew. Okay, I think that is enough opinion to make anyone >> cringe. Sorry and please consider my needs versus the power hungry >> machinists that already know up from down. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 8:38:53 AM UTC-5, Jason Kridner wrote: >>> >>> Seeed is looking to not only build a Machinekit-focused Cape for >>> BeagleBone Black and BeagleBone AI, but to: >>> * Take in features and feedback from the community >>> * Contribute the design to open source and certify it as such >>> * Manufacture the design under the BeagleBoard.org name to support the >>> BeagleBoard.org Foundation and community >>> * Help assemble and provide software images configured for an open >>> source 3D printer and CNC machine (with BeagleBoard.org and community >>> guidance and support) >>> * Offer a collection of additional accessories which might commonly be >>> needed >>> >>> I am very excited about this because I know Seeed cares about open >>> hardware and also knows how to deliver solutions reliably and cost >>> effectively. >>> >>> So, what are your ideas about where to start on such a cape? >>> -- >>> https://beagleboard.org/about >>> >> -- >> website: http://www.machinekit.io blog: http://blog.machinekit.io >> github: https://github.com/machinekit >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Machinekit" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/36936efa-6887-4762-9982-1c2ac3dc3af7%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/36936efa-6887-4762-9982-1c2ac3dc3af7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > https://beagleboard.org/about - a 501c3 non-profit educating around open > hardware computing > On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 4:05:14 PM UTC-5, Jason Kridner wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:59 PM Mala Dies <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am a novice in most fields of study regarding brushless stepper motors >> and drives. If anything, I think allowing people like me, the novices in >> this category, to establish as domain in the field with not only hardware >> but a temporary to permanent wiki support would be what Open Source >> initiatives are made of currently. >> >> ... >> >> I know about Machinekit and how it offers specific uses to users like me. >> Although, and this is the truth, I have not used Machinekit with my >> RepliCape, I have been wanting to test out these images for use in a >> particular manner. >> >> >> - Key Takeaways >> - Ease of use >> - Open Source Hardware and Source (the BBB.io persons' ways) >> - An updated Wiki of ideas all relative to this specific hardware, >> source, and middleware >> - Stated Opinions >> - Although my opinions may fall short of technological at times, >> ease of use is always a need >> - I would make lists and hold a meeting >> - Hardware >> - Source (Machinekit)? >> - Wiki (who will have advanced knowledge to pick apart the >> wiki)? >> >> Now...I am sure Seeed Studio can handle, w/ the current state of >> machinery, the needs of me, myself, and I (and other users like me too). >> >> But... >> >> So, sockets or pins or connections: >> >> >> - I say that actual connections should be made outside of the screw >> terminals, i.e. either soldered or a terminal block that is severely >> equipped to handle people moving around the machinery and electronics. >> - I also say that there should be a couple of people at least that >> are dedicated to the project, e.g. more knowledgeable people than I on >> these subjects. >> - I also say that the computer needs to be the source of the UX, GUI, >> UI, or whatever we call them these days. >> >> ... >> >> Now...I am not affiliated but I am definitely a community member that has >> "outlandish" goals for specific projects. I have been here since the A5C >> BBB. I think it has been since 2014/15. >> >> Why am I telling you these ideas and reaching out? >> >> >> 1. I have seen specific ideas go to waste and not catch any ideas >> from other community members on many of the Capes produced. >> 2. Either the Capes produced, were before my time, circa '14/'15, or >> I have been paying less attention to what is needed regarding the Capes. >> 3. I think the Capes are a big part of the community and ideas >> circulating are more than a start. >> >> I hate to down Seeed Studio because of their popularity and ease of >> motive to act on making nice equipment but... >> >> Sometimes, I think because of their wikis not being updated frequently, >> people lose interest or find that support is not viable for them. >> >> I have been to the Seeed Studio wiki many times in my life and sometimes >> I have been rewarded for asking for support. Other times, the community was >> more needy than I and I had to provide what I learned. >> >> All I am typing here is that interest gets lost when people are not >> updating due to whatever reason. Do you or do we want another Cape to get >> lost attention when it is a piece of GOLD? >> > > Let's look to Seeed for what we know Seeed is good at. They do good design > work, they manufacture on-time at good prices at varying volumes for long > periods of time, if given the right constraints of a well-defined > functionality they do good quality control, they solve difficult component > challenges with good visibility into what is available and they work well > in the open source world as information is requested from them they give > very freely. That said, they aren't Machinekit experts and this community > would be educating them on that. Documentation on using Machinekit should > be coming from the Machinekit community and documentation around new > hardware should be done in a way that meets this community's standards. I'm > asking if we can work together to leverage Seeed's strengths to solve a > gap--the gap of while there are lots of cool solutions around BeagleBone > and Machinekit, the add-on hardware to make them is not readily available > in distribution with ready-to-go software images. > > Sound good? > > >> >> Seth >> >> P.S. Now, I understand that beagleboard.org is not a major subsidiary of >> Lexus or whatever large company. I am not talking about 24/7 support by way >> of email, phone, chat, and face time or live meetings online and in person. >> I would ask but I am too scared. Anyway, please try to make this venture w/ >> ease of access in mind, sturdy (durable) power and pin connectors, and w/ >> access to extra i2c pins on the AI if they are indeed available by way of >> Machinekit. Phew. Okay, I think that is enough opinion to make anyone >> cringe. Sorry and please consider my needs versus the power hungry >> machinists that already know up from down. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 8:38:53 AM UTC-5, Jason Kridner wrote: >>> >>> Seeed is looking to not only build a Machinekit-focused Cape for >>> BeagleBone Black and BeagleBone AI, but to: >>> * Take in features and feedback from the community >>> * Contribute the design to open source and certify it as such >>> * Manufacture the design under the BeagleBoard.org name to support the >>> BeagleBoard.org Foundation and community >>> * Help assemble and provide software images configured for an open >>> source 3D printer and CNC machine (with BeagleBoard.org and community >>> guidance and support) >>> * Offer a collection of additional accessories which might commonly be >>> needed >>> >>> I am very excited about this because I know Seeed cares about open >>> hardware and also knows how to deliver solutions reliably and cost >>> effectively. >>> >>> So, what are your ideas about where to start on such a cape? >>> -- >>> https://beagleboard.org/about >>> >> -- >> website: http://www.machinekit.io blog: http://blog.machinekit.io >> github: https://github.com/machinekit >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Machinekit" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/36936efa-6887-4762-9982-1c2ac3dc3af7%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/36936efa-6887-4762-9982-1c2ac3dc3af7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > https://beagleboard.org/about - a 501c3 non-profit educating around open > hardware computing > -- website: http://www.machinekit.io blog: http://blog.machinekit.io github: https://github.com/machinekit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Machinekit" group. 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