On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> i don't know Cox Cable (i don't use cable at all), but the new TiVo boxes 
> have dual tuners and cablecard slots, and even the old TiVos can change 
> channels on a cable box for you; i don't know if the TiVo/cablecard solution  
> lets you tune two encrypted channels simultaneously, but if not perhaps you 
> can tune one encrypted and one non-encrypted channel
> 
> personally i doubt the EyeTV experience could match TiVo, and the cost of 
> TiVo (versus cable and a Mini) is competitive; we dumped cable in 2000 
> because TiVo plus the local library's DVD collection (plus streaming more 
> recently) were plenty for us (digital broadcast TV has only made it better); 
> we now have two TiVos one of which i got used four years ago -- it cost $100 
> and has a lifetime subscription, which brings the subscription cost of the 
> second TiVo down to $7/month; that plus we were able to trade up our 
> ten-year-old TiVo for a refurb TiVo HD for $100 a couple years ago (a bit of 
> hassle, though since the first one was DOA)
> 
> so $7/month, no cable fees, and maybe $500 equipment outlay over ten years

Maybe I'm missing something. I went and looked at Tivo's site and I can get the 
box itself for either 300 or 500 depending on hard disk size. According to them 
I still need a cable connection and the cable connect card (or whatever it's 
name is) to keep track of what premium channels I'm authorized.

Looking at the Tivo channel listing . . .I don't see the regular broadcast 
networks (NBC, CBS, Fox, and ABC) listed . . .although I do see HBO and the 
other premium channels listed . . .do they come from the Tivo internet 
connection or still from the cable connection? Our current Cox bill gets us 
basic cable (Cox Starter) for 22, Expanded for 32, Advanced for 6, Sports for 
3, and the HD set top box (non DVR) for 8. Assuming all the channels listed on 
the Tivo site are included in the monthly service . . .wouldn't I still need 
the basic cable for those channels?

If I still have to pay for cable for all of those extra channels . . .other 
than the DVR capability which wouldn't be all that much use to us what's the 
real advantage of Tivo? 

My original post was looking for some easy/relatively cheap way to use the mini 
(hooked up for streaming video from various sites that aren't covered by Tivo) 
to record something while watching something else . . .one big problem we seem 
to have is that two good shows come on opposite one another. While it would be 
nice to record one . . .it doesn't happen often enough to make it worth another 
$30 a month.



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