On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 01:39, LuKreme <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You don’t need to go with a full fledged thumb drive with a cover and a case 
> around it. You need a USB connector and a bit of Flash memory and that’s it. 
> You can get those made for about $1 I’d bet. Even if you’re Apple and you 
> want to to it ‘right’ and make it look like an Apple thing, you’re probably 
> not looking at more than $2.

It's still more expensive than DVD pressing. I doubt there are many
companies around that are going to say, "It's only four times as
expensive." And as an aside here, network transfer blows them both out
of the water.


> Right, but 1) they are not buying ‘blank’ DVDs, they are buying DVD blanks 
> (Sound like the same thing, isn’t at all the same thing) for a pressing 
> machine (that is, the drives aren’t burned like a DRD writer, they are 
> pressed) and those machines are EXPENSIVE.

Apple doesn't need to buy the machines, just like they don't need to
assemble the blanks, or the Flash media. The prices I've seen indicate
that bulk DVD production is very much cheaper. No where near the $1-2
we've been tossing around. Even the bare minimum media seems like it'd
fall out around $6-8.
If it was so much cheaper to produce "a USB connector and a bit of
Flash memory", why can't I buy one of these for personal use? I'd love
a drive in the form factor of Apple's recovery sticks.


> Once the discs are pressed, they are useless for anything else. the software 
> cannot be updated. Excess inventory must be destroyed.

I'd be hesitant to assume Apple is updating the Flash media. It seems
to me that it'd be more expensive to return those to the factory that
loaded them to be updated. But then again, I don't know what the
process is or who Apple uses for this or if they do things themselves.
If it really is an army of unpaid interns loading and updating Flash
media with whatever the latest OS release is, it very well could be a
bit more economical for them.


> There’s a lot more costs involved that the simple manufacturing costs: 
> shipping, storage, warehousing, distribution, and shelf space are all 
> considerations, not to mention the WORM aspect of the DVD pressing.

Don't all those same things apply to Flash media?
What is WORM? (The Googles do nothing.)


> Sure, network is going to be the best option. But now that you’ve moved 
> everyone you can to network distribution, what is the best option for 
> everyone else? Is it a DVD pressing or a USB stick?

This is basically what I've been saying. (Perhaps poorly?)


> I say the many advantages to the USB thumb drive outweigh the cost factor for 
> DVDs.

I think this is only true once you've ditched optical drives.

Apple computers that have optical drives still ship with DVD media as
far as I'm aware. The machines that they did ship USB drives with
because they didn't have optical drives have even dropped the recovery
media in favor of network transfer. I'm having a hard time seeing an
argument that says Apple has taken the more expensive route for fun.
Or that they did so when the Air came with a USB stick.


Overall, I'm drawing a distinction between software and entertainment
media because that's where Apple draws a line. Apple now has both
covered, so both are dead in a physical form. Software media has been
dead for a while now. The hoards of existing physical entertainment
media are still useful and won't be replaced as fast as software
media, but the transition is going on there as well. When Apple
dropped the floppy, how many users installed software from a CD? (I
may not be remembering things very well, but I don't remember any
software that did so. Maybe Photoshop was just starting to transition
to this?) That the Internet makes things easier is a point in favor of
the transition timeline, not against it.

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