> But that is not necessarily how Mission control works. Yes, you CAN that all > of an apps windows as a single group and drag then to a specific desktop, but > there is nothing saying you have do do this.
This is news to me. I thought that 10.7 Lion forced you to have mission control (no longer spaces, sorry) treat each application as a group of that app's windows. >> This is probably the biggest show stopper for me for upgrading to >> 10.7. Replacing spaces with something that makes windows tiny because >> that app has a lot, with no way to group things meaningfully, with no >> real support for virtual desktops (I actually asked an Apple rep at >> BestBuy, and they said "no"), is worse than no PPC emulation. > > I’m not sure why you mean by ‘real support’. Well, what I want, ideally: 1. The ability to put a label on each desktop. 2. The ability to put some windows for each app on different desktops. 3. The ability to say that some windows go with you to each desktop. (AFAIK, you can specify this for a given app, but not for specific windows within that app. Currently I use this for Activity Monitor.) 4. The ability to group by desktop, possibly treating full-screen windows as a separate desktop (note: full screen window, not full screen app. A single app might have multiple full screen windows on different desktops.) Simply put, I want to have multiple desktops, and the appearance of any/all applications open on more than one desktop. I want desktops to be a labeled view for a group of windows, not a view for a group of tools. Wishlist: 5. The ability to have some windows forced to the front, even if not "key". With a specified transparency, and the ability to say "mouse transparent". 6. The ability to clip a window to a region of that window. (Combine 5 and 6 to make a video playback window in one corner of the screen, and still have access to whatever is underneath it. Even if that playback window is in the middle of a web page.). 7. The ability to resize/scale some windows without resizing/scaling everything (make that 288p playback window 288 lines tall, not 360 lines tall. (silly hulu.)). What I thought Lion forced (and I do not want): All apps get a section of the summary, so that if you have 8 apps open, each gets about 1/8th of the screen, whether they have one window (readable) or 50 (all postage stamps). (Yes, perhaps I should not have 50 firefox windows open at once. Funny me, I thought this was a _windowing system_, not a _tab group system_.) (Philosophy point: Tabs are not a substitute for windows. Windows should be groupable by function/application, not by program that creates them. "Application" is what a tool or group of tools is being used for; "program" is a single tool. A given function/application may be handled by multiple tools; those same tools may be doing other things or working on other projects/activities/applications. A windowing system should be designed to work with windows, and lots of them. It should never be expensive to open a new "full size" window -- whether "full size" is full screen, or full screen minus dock/status bar/task area is system dependent.) > Certainly there are features of some virtual desktop systems that Mission > Control in Lion doesn’t support, but putting windows on desktops is certainly > one that it does. As I said, the Apple rep at Bestbuy couldn't do that. Said that feature was gone. _______________________________________________ MacOSX-talk mailing list [email protected] http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
