On 1 mar 2012, at 15:05, Arno Hautala <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2012-03-01, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> It used to be that on non-querty keyboards you needed to press the key where
>> the Q is on a querty keyboard is (e.g., next to the tab key). On an azerty,
>> that would be the A key. Maybe they fixed that in more recent versions of
>> OSX.
> 
> This has indeed been fixed, I think in Snow Leopard.
> 
> 
> On 2012-03-01, Ashley Aitken <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Still I think it would be nice if their was an option to "Quit" as well as
>> "Force Quit" from Dock menu when an application is not responding.
> 
> I think the point is that an application that isn't responding very
> likely won't *respond* to the Quit command. If Apple changes anything
> here, I'd expect it to be by dropping the behavior of switching "Quit"
> to "Force Quit" and just have the OS send what it thinks is the
> appropriate signal; Quit if the app is responding, Force Quit if it
> isn't.

That would be poor communication to the user. Quit and kill is very different 
and the user must be in controll over which to send. For example any unsaved 
data could be lost all of a sudden if the OS killa the program :/ And in the 
case were the proram is busy the user have the choise to wait it out until it 
gets responsive again.

The issue at hand here is that the OS doesn't know if the process is 
temporarily unresponsive or have got stuck and need to be force quit.

// John Stalberg_______________________________________________
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