On 1-Mar-2012, at 08:04, John Stalberg wrote:
> On 1 mar 2012, at 15:05, Arno Hautala <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think the point is that an application that isn't responding very
>> likely won't *respond* to the Quit command. If Apple changes anything
>> here, I'd expect it to be by dropping the behavior of switching "Quit"
>> to "Force Quit" and just have the OS send what it thinks is the
>> appropriate signal; Quit if the app is responding, Force Quit if it
>> isn't.
> 
> That would be poor communication to the user. Quit and kill is very different 
> and the user must be in controll over which to send. For example any unsaved 
> data could be lost all of a sudden if the OS killa the program :/ And in the 
> case were the proram is busy the user have the choise to wait it out until it 
> gets responsive again.

You simply have the OS try to send a quit to the app. After a certain amount of 
time, send a kill. That certain amount of time is likely to be somewhere north 
of a minute, but south of 5.

At a certain point, killing the process is the only way to continue. If the 
data is lost, it's already lost.

-- 
"Remember -- that which does not kill us can only make us stronger."
"And that which *does* kill us leaves us *dead*!"

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