On Thursday, October 18, 2001, at 02:27 PM, Wilfredo S�nchez wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 17, 2001, at 04:35  PM, Greg Bossert wrote:
>> and i can attest that at SGI a lot of work went into tightening the OS 
>> up as shipped, and in providing scripts to help the admin further 
>> secure the machine.  however, that only goes so far; security of the 
>> local configuration is a local administration issue.  the default 
>> installed configuration of MacOS X seems to me to be quite reasonable, 
>> security-wise, relative to UNIX distribution norms.
>   The default config and common usage case should be safe, but I 
> disagree that OS X has reasonable out-of-the-box local security.

as i said, i meant "reasonable" only in comparison with the average 
default configuration for UNIX distributions i've encountered.  it's not 
perfect, but MacoS X could have been much worse, from a design and a 
default setup viewpoint.  and, as i also said, from a practical 
viewpoint i view any attempt to secure a machine which is physically 
accessible to random, possibly malicious, folks as, at the very best, a 
sort of "security through inconvenience" delaying tactic. for the most 
part the system is safe from innocent accidents (though i am concerned 
about Randall's original "Recent Items" exploit in this light).

in an attempt to bring this back on topic:  one approach to some of 
these issues (including Kee's remarks about trusting GUI apps) is to 
stay  within the more familiar UNIX shell world.  which suggests, for 
example, a Perl interface to NetInfo.  is anyone working independently 
on such, or are we all waiting on Apple?

-g

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