" I have to admit that MacRuby is getting better everyday but MacRuby is still far from complete."
Could you elaborate on that please? Thanks, - Matt On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:02 PM, David Frantz <websterindus...@mac.com> wrote: > Here is my perspective, limited as it is. > 1. > You can not get by without learning Objective C! > 2. > Objective C really isn't that bad! As a minor upgrade to C it is fast to > pick up, the bulk of your learning will go to the various APIs. This if > you already know a little bit of C. > 3. > If you want to write apps right now Objective C is the best way to go. Now > I know that many will object to that statement and I have to admit that > MacRuby is getting better everyday but MacRuby is still far from complete. > Well maybe not far but I think you should grasp what I mean. > 4. > IOS and MacRuby are currently mutually exclusive. This is actually the > biggest bummer of any point I have listed so far. If you are interested in > iOS devices there is no good reason to even bother with MacRuby. > 5. > Now things are not all negative here. For one all platforms need a well > integrated scripting language. MacRuby certainly fills that role but it > isn't Python. Now we don't want to argue the finer points of scripting > languages but I find I use Python more than MacRuby because of prior > experience and sometimes a better fit for the problem. So what I'm saying > is that MacRuby is sorely needed as a way to build MacOS type apps. > 6. > MacRuby's status at Apple is unclear. This can be somewhat frustrating > because I'd rather that Apple officially support MacRuby. Apple does seem > to be extremely focused on the "C" dialects only. Maybe my impression here > is wrong, but I'd rather see MacRuby shipped by Apple as part of their > developer tools set officially supported. MacRuby should be as important > to Apple as Visual BASIC is to MS. > > > In the end it is up to you. MacRuby is a very interesting project and is > why I follow this forum. For the time being though I do not use MacRuby. > The lack of iOS support is one big issue. The fact that you have to learn > Objective C and the APIs anyways is another. I'm also pressed for time and > know at least a little C++ so Objective C is the less painful approach. > Also consider this, I made the decision to stay with the C languages a very > long time ago. MacRuby is far closer to complete now so the Alpha/Beta > nature is slowly going away. > > Sent from Dave's iPad! > On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Bryan Harrison <br...@bryanharrison.com> wrote: > > Older & Wisers: > Having done enough web development, network design, and systems > administration for one lifetime, I've decided this winter is a fine time to > leave all that behind and become an applications developer. Wanting to make > consumer products and having no interest in Windows, most of the territory > ahead is obvious. > But still, I'd appreciate some advice from those who're already there, > particularly with regard to MacRuby. > Specifically, has development for OS X and iOS reached the point where it > would be reasonable to pursue Ruby before or even instead of Objective-C? > I've modest C background, am OOP-familiar, am not versed in Cocoa, and am > only marginally familiar with Ruby. Obviously I'd like to get up to speed > as soon as possible, but I'm not under any pressure and expecting this will > be the next 5-10 years of my life, would rather be good than quick. > Objective-C is not without a certain homely charm, but Ruby is obviously the > more modern language. So… > > Does Xcode treat Ruby as family, or is it a stepchild toiling in the ashes? > Are there other tools I'll need? > > What's Apple's attitude toward Ruby applications? > > Can Ruby take advantage of the (finally!) modern memory management features > released with iOS 5? > > Will I end up have having learn Objective-C regardless? > > Basically, "If you were me, what would you do, and what order might you do > it in?" > Thanks, > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > MacRuby-devel mailing list > MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel > > _______________________________________________ > MacRuby-devel mailing list > MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel > > _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
