Well maybe the choice of words isn't great but we have yet to see a version one released. Maybe version one isn't that far off, but I think it is fair to say most people approach version one of anything software related with reservations.
Sent from Dave's iPad! On Oct 17, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Matt Aimonetti <mattaimone...@gmail.com> wrote: > " I have to admit that MacRuby is getting better everyday but MacRuby > is still far from complete." > > Could you elaborate on that please? > > Thanks, > > - Matt > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:02 PM, David Frantz <websterindus...@mac.com> > wrote: >> Here is my perspective, limited as it is. >> 1. >> You can not get by without learning Objective C! >> 2. >> Objective C really isn't that bad! As a minor upgrade to C it is fast to >> pick up, the bulk of your learning will go to the various APIs. This if >> you already know a little bit of C. >> 3. >> If you want to write apps right now Objective C is the best way to go. Now >> I know that many will object to that statement and I have to admit that >> MacRuby is getting better everyday but MacRuby is still far from complete. >> Well maybe not far but I think you should grasp what I mean. >> 4. >> IOS and MacRuby are currently mutually exclusive. This is actually the >> biggest bummer of any point I have listed so far. If you are interested in >> iOS devices there is no good reason to even bother with MacRuby. >> 5. >> Now things are not all negative here. For one all platforms need a well >> integrated scripting language. MacRuby certainly fills that role but it >> isn't Python. Now we don't want to argue the finer points of scripting >> languages but I find I use Python more than MacRuby because of prior >> experience and sometimes a better fit for the problem. So what I'm saying >> is that MacRuby is sorely needed as a way to build MacOS type apps. >> 6. >> MacRuby's status at Apple is unclear. This can be somewhat frustrating >> because I'd rather that Apple officially support MacRuby. Apple does seem >> to be extremely focused on the "C" dialects only. Maybe my impression here >> is wrong, but I'd rather see MacRuby shipped by Apple as part of their >> developer tools set officially supported. MacRuby should be as important >> to Apple as Visual BASIC is to MS. >> >> >> In the end it is up to you. MacRuby is a very interesting project and is >> why I follow this forum. For the time being though I do not use MacRuby. >> The lack of iOS support is one big issue. The fact that you have to learn >> Objective C and the APIs anyways is another. I'm also pressed for time and >> know at least a little C++ so Objective C is the less painful approach. >> Also consider this, I made the decision to stay with the C languages a very >> long time ago. MacRuby is far closer to complete now so the Alpha/Beta >> nature is slowly going away. >> >> Sent from Dave's iPad! >> On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Bryan Harrison <br...@bryanharrison.com> wrote: >> >> Older & Wisers: >> Having done enough web development, network design, and systems >> administration for one lifetime, I've decided this winter is a fine time to >> leave all that behind and become an applications developer. Wanting to make >> consumer products and having no interest in Windows, most of the territory >> ahead is obvious. >> But still, I'd appreciate some advice from those who're already there, >> particularly with regard to MacRuby. >> Specifically, has development for OS X and iOS reached the point where it >> would be reasonable to pursue Ruby before or even instead of Objective-C? >> I've modest C background, am OOP-familiar, am not versed in Cocoa, and am >> only marginally familiar with Ruby. Obviously I'd like to get up to speed >> as soon as possible, but I'm not under any pressure and expecting this will >> be the next 5-10 years of my life, would rather be good than quick. >> Objective-C is not without a certain homely charm, but Ruby is obviously the >> more modern language. So… >> >> Does Xcode treat Ruby as family, or is it a stepchild toiling in the ashes? >> Are there other tools I'll need? >> >> What's Apple's attitude toward Ruby applications? >> >> Can Ruby take advantage of the (finally!) modern memory management features >> released with iOS 5? >> >> Will I end up have having learn Objective-C regardless? >> >> Basically, "If you were me, what would you do, and what order might you do >> it in?" >> Thanks, >> Bryan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacRuby-devel mailing list >> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >> http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacRuby-devel mailing list >> MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org >> http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > MacRuby-devel mailing list > MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
