Good evening,

Any operating system running in a VM is slower than if it were running  
natively on the same machine.

HTH,
Everett


On 5-Apr-09, at 1:06 AM, Tiffany D wrote:

>
> Will it run slower that way?  I just read that even installing it
> directly onto the machine will result in a very slow netbook.
> Apparently, things with sound etc don't work that well cause the cpu
> is slow.  Not sure if this is true.  What about things like youtube or
> downloading songs?
>
> On 04/04/2009, E.J. Zufelt <ever...@zufelt.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> The challenges and barriers that you will face installing Leopard  
>> in a
>> Virtual Machine are comparable to the challenges that you will face
>> installing it onto native, non-Mac, hardware.  The biggest challenge
>> will be  whether your virtualization platform can emulate devices
>> (audio, network, etc.) for which you can find Leopard compatible
>> drivers.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Everett
>>
>>
>> On 4-Apr-09, at 11:45 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I don't use linux so am not interested in three operating
>>> systems on my machine.  However, I am curious if I can install  
>>> Leopard
>>> through a virtual machine so that if something goes wrong I can just
>>> delete the file.  Btw, I asked about the speed of the netbook I'm
>>> considering at Staples and was told it's the equivalent of a Pentium
>>> III.
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2009, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sandy,
>>>>
>>>> the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple  
>>>> boot
>>>> machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.
>>>>
>>>> Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows
>>>> xp, linux
>>>> of some distribution and leopard.
>>>> If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the
>>>> 100H model.
>>>>
>>>> Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup the 3
>>>> os but
>>>> it would be cool to have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 2:35 p.m.
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope
>>>> you
>>>> didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that  
>>>> word
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>>>> anyone! on
>>>> list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I
>>>> am on
>>>> your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do
>>>> respect,
>>>> mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do
>>>> respect for
>>>> my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it
>>>> out, and
>>>> thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me
>>>> honestly.  No need
>>>> to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask,
>>>> in all do
>>>> respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word
>>>> is a
>>>> spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I
>>>> won't go
>>>> into it though.
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "sandi sørensen" <sandi1...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hey. :)
>>>> just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
>>>> are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on  
>>>> it
>>>> says it is illegal to do it.
>>>> Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand  
>>>> and
>>>> all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
>>>> Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an  
>>>> lycomming
>>>> in it.
>>>> I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
>>>> linux on it?
>>>> It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /sandi
>>>> On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
>>>>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without  
>>>>> the
>>>>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>>>>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you  
>>>>> think it
>>>>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical
>>>>> to
>>>>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience
>>>>> with
>>>>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the  
>>>>> installation
>>>>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed  
>>>>> that
>>>>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from  
>>>>> someone
>>>>> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions
>>>>> if
>>>>> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links  
>>>>> on it
>>>>> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I  
>>>>> doubt I
>>>>> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
>>>>> Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure  
>>>>> that
>>>>> someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be  
>>>>> sure
>>>>> it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but
>>>>> again,
>>>>> follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
>>>>> pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill
>>>>> anything so
>>>>> give it a go.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
>>>>> assuming
>>>>> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that  
>>>>> and
>>>>> the other version they mentioned on the site?
>>>>> The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
>>>>> leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have
>>>>> to
>>>>> learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they  
>>>>> are
>>>>> speaking about and do it like that.
>>>>> Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
>>>>> no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones  
>>>>> done
>>>>> it before.
>>>>> Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
>>>>> yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the  
>>>>> headphone
>>>>> port or the speakers might not work.
>>>>> what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he
>>>>> still
>>>>> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a
>>>>> licensed
>>>>> copy.
>>>>> He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the apple
>>>>> licencing agreement. He's not actually using original leopard  
>>>>> disks;
>>>>> he's using the hacked version and purchasing a leopard licence for
>>>>> that hacked version; in other words, he's using a hacked version,
>>>>> going out and buying a set of leopard disks and then not putting  
>>>>> the
>>>>> lajit disks anywhere nere his netbook.
>>>>> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™
>>>>> Processor
>>>>> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
>>>>> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under $350
>>>>> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the
>>>>> netbook?
>>>>> Perhaps, but if its been done before then that shouldn't be a
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could  
>>>>> just
>>>>> hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to get a
>>>>> drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop
>>>>> without
>>>>> me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.
>>>>> Yes, should work fine in osx, windows or what ever you want to put
>>>>> on it.
>>>>> What did he mean when he talked about having to get a wireless  
>>>>> card.
>>>>> The Acer would
>>>>> one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still
>>>>> need to
>>>>> get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the  
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> does?
>>>>> No, in that case, it wouldn't be able to use your wireless, you'd
>>>>> either have to get a different card or not use wireless at all.
>>>>> Unless
>>>>> I am mistakened, the only cards that work in this situation are  
>>>>> mini
>>>>> pci ones, so you'd have to open your new pet up and void its
>>>>> worranty.
>>>>> I'd still do it; sounds like it could be fun.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/04/2009, Tiffany D <tiffani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went on Google and typed in "install leopard netbook" without  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
>>>>>> referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it
>>>>>> hypothetical to
>>>>>> avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the
>>>>>> installation
>>>>>> probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow
>>>>>> instructions if
>>>>>> they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I  
>>>>>> doubt I
>>>>>> need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.  I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm assuming
>>>>>> that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the other version they mentioned on the site?  Can it work on any
>>>>>> netbook with similar specs?  Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
>>>>>> talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a
>>>>>> licensed
>>>>>> copy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now say I got an Acer - Aspire One Netbook with Intel® Atom™
>>>>>> Processor
>>>>>> N270 (either with the 120 or 160 gb hard drive and the six-cell
>>>>>> battery, unless there's a better one under 9 inches and under  
>>>>>> $350
>>>>>> tops out there).  Would I need to get special drivers for the
>>>>>> netbook?
>>>>>> I have an external cd/dvd rom drive and am wondering if I could
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> hook it up to the usb port on the netbook or would I need to  
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> drive specifically for that brand?  It did work on my desktop
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> me installing any drivers, so I don't see why not.  What did he
>>>>>> mean
>>>>>> when he talked about having to get a wireless card.  The Acer  
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> one built-in and I have broadband from Verizon.  Would I still  
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get a special card or would it recognise my connection like the  
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> does?  Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>>>
>>>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>>>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>>>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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