Hello
thanks for this verry informative info
one thing I am wondering if I purchase a iphone application and it  
isn't vo friendly am I out 4.95?
how does something like that work with software apps?
Hank
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Hank,
>
> There's a version of "Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual,
> Leopard edition" from O'Reilly Media, Inc. that's available as an
> iPhone app for $4.99:
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=325837189&mt=8
>
> I don't know whether this is accessible through VO on the iPhone.
> From Josh's comments, the ebook versions that are offered through the
> Stanza app interface aren't quite accessible to VO.  (I'm not quite
> sure what he meant by his impression that they were "almost
> accessible".)  However, many ebooks offered as stand-alone apps for
> the iPhone do seem to be accessible.  That said, someone who has an
> iPhone and is proficient with VO navigation would have to check out
> how easy it is to navigate to the various chapters, search for text,
> etc.
>
> There's also a version of Pogue's "iPhone: The Missing Manual, Third
> Edition" that cover the iPhone 3GS available as an iPhone app for  
> $4.99:
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=324601015&mt=8
>
> When the last version was released, it was the top selling ebook over
> the of a few weeks after it was released. I assume this book may be of
> less use to VO users since it won't cover special tips for using the
> VO gestures, but it will give general informtion.  Again, no
> information about VO accessibility here.
>
> The reason I would love to know whether Stanza is or can be made
> accessible to VoiceOver on the iPhone is that this is the major
> competitor for ebook usage to the Kindle, and that there are tons of
> both free and paid ebooks, all free of DRM, that can use this
> interface.  I've read that some low vision users are using this app on
> the iPhone.
>
> If you look in the list archives, you'll see recommendations to both
> the O'Reilly books that are availble from Bookshare (including Pogue's
> Missing Manual series -- not just the volume for switching from
> Windows) and to the Take Control downloadable ebooks.  For example,
> this November 2008 post even mentions "Switching to the Mac: The
> Missing Manual, Leopard edition" as being of possible interest to list
> members even though it was answering a point of someone who was coming
> into the Mac from a linux background with a suggestion of another
> O'Reilly book from Bookshare:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg44372.html
> (Mac OS X for Linux and Unix users)
>
> That post details the best way I've found to search for O'Reilly books
> at Bookshare and also notes that all O'Reilly books are available to
> international Bookshare users.  Since the material is supplied
> directly from the publisher, who also maintains commercial on-line
> versions of the book and sells these in (non-DRM) PDF and other ebook
> formats, the content quality is high, and the available work is up to
> date.  For Les, it's sometimes difficult to check the latest version
> of a book on Bookshare; you should always click on the title link and
> check the publish date. I usually also go directly to the O'Reilly
> pages: http://www.oreilly.com  where you can also check whether a new
> edition may be coming out.  Then I look for it in Bookshare.
>
> Another really excellent series are the "Take Control" books.   You
> can try looking at their "Take Control of Switching to the Mac":
>
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
>
> These are highly accessible guides in downloadable PDF format that
> typically list for $10.  This format allows the authors to quickly
> issue updates, and when you purchase a guide you can check for the
> latest update and download it for free from the Web site until the
> next major revision (a couple of years later).  Chances are, if you're
> on the mailing list, they'll tell you when the next major release
> comes out, and offer you a discount.  Their web site allows you to
> download free samples of all their books, so you can see whether the
> content and style is likely to match your needs. Navigation supports
> links to relevant sections in Preview.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> P.S. I don't have any of the Windows related Take Control books, but
> if I decided to install Fusion on my Mac, I would personally get their
> Take Control of VMWare Fusion.
>
>
>
> hank smith wrote:
>
>>
>> any other way to get it besides book share?
>> On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:26 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Anna,
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for this resource.  I went to bookshare and grabbed
>>> it and
>>> will be reading it on my Icon BP.  I noticed there were 2 books, one
>>> for
>>> Tiger and one for Leopard which is the one I downloaded.  Sounds
>>> like this
>>> will be right up my alley!
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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