Hi, Not sure that I understand what's trying to be said here. Not wanting to open up a can of worms but just a little confused.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 21, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Mario Navarro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > people only have what they deserve > ... continue to support apple's irresponsibility that she pays you well ... > like the mavericks update 10.9.3? > apple gave you a handful of nothing wasn't accessibility? > cheers. > > As mulheres, durante séculos, serviram de espelho aos homens por possuírem o > poder mágico e delicioso de reflectirem uma imagem do homem duas vezes maior > que o natural. > Virginia Woolf > > Mario Navarro > [email protected] > > > > No dia 21/05/2014, às 18:17, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> escreveu: > >> Hi, >> >> I was just at an Apple Learning Tour event last week and let some of the >> folks see the frustrations with accessibility in some of the apps including >> iBooks. I agree that with Apple's push to have iBooks in the schools, they >> need to continue working on these downfalls. I'm not making excuses, but, >> my experience says that these things don't happen at the speed of light like >> we would hope for. Accessibility improvements tend to just gradually happen >> with no real advanced notice, which, of course, is Apple's way with most >> things. We need to continue expressing the need to have these accessibility >> issues addressed and also continue sharing workarounds as, sometimes, these >> are the things that help people understand and improve on the accessibility >> issues. >> >> Sorry, not much real help for you here. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On May 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> First of all, the only useful selection in the radio group you mentioned is >>> the list. Nothing else works well with vo. >>> I'll go over some tricks I've found helpful in reading and navigating a >>> book. First, I've found it helpful to turn off cursor tracking as the >>> chapter navigation does not work for some reason win focus is in the HTML >>> content. >>> Next, you can route the mouse to the scroll area and press vo-f5. This >>> will read the book content that is actually being displayed. Now you can >>> move from chapter to chapter with command-shift-left or >>> command-shift-right. When you do this, the displayed content you read with >>> vo-f5 will change. You can move vo directly to the displayed content for >>> reading by routing it to the mouse. You actually could not do this in the >>> first release, but they did fix this. Also, you won't have large chunks of >>> text that vo won't read at all. >>> >>> I agree with most of your comments about iBooks. I think it really could >>> and should have been better. I believe that it is currently in the best >>> state that it's been in however, and I am able to use it affectively in the >>> way I described. I hope you find something I said useful keeping in mind >>> that while the methods work for me presently, there are glitches as always. >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Having read on one of the lists I'm on, I think this one, but I might be >>> wrong, that accessibility to iBooks was somewhat improved with the recent >>> update, I have tried to get to grips with it, and have failed completely. >>> When I first opened the program, it offered to import my several hundred >>> books, and I said yes to that. I have reopened the program, and I have >>> found a series of radio buttons that let me select among collections, all >>> books and some other choices I don't recall. I picked collections, and I >>> see a table that has my collection names in it. If I select one and quit >>> interacting, I see absolutely no indication anywhere that I can actually >>> access a list of books, much less open one. I've been through the menus >>> with no help. I've been in preferences and found nothing useful. There are >>> a few unlabeled buttons that somebody suggested were easy to label. I'd >>> like to know how, since there are no hints associated with these. All in >>> all, I find this application to be totally frustrating and a really bad >>> example of what I thought was Apple's commitment to accessibility. >>> Especially since they want iBooks in schools, you'd think they'd have made >>> this totally VO accessible. >>> >>> So, for those of you who find this application efficiently usable, please >>> tell me what I'm missing. 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