Good question. I guess it is the interpretation of riddles ....
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, [email protected] Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On May 21, 2014, at 11:00 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Not sure that I understand what's trying to be said here. Not wanting to > open up a can of worms but just a little confused. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 21, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Mario Navarro <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> people only have what they deserve >> ... continue to support apple's irresponsibility that she pays you well ... >> like the mavericks update 10.9.3? >> apple gave you a handful of nothing wasn't accessibility? >> cheers. >> >> As mulheres, durante séculos, serviram de espelho aos homens por possuírem o >> poder mágico e delicioso de reflectirem uma imagem do homem duas vezes maior >> que o natural. >> Virginia Woolf >> >> Mario Navarro >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> No dia 21/05/2014, às 18:17, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> escreveu: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was just at an Apple Learning Tour event last week and let some of the >>> folks see the frustrations with accessibility in some of the apps including >>> iBooks. I agree that with Apple's push to have iBooks in the schools, they >>> need to continue working on these downfalls. I'm not making excuses, but, >>> my experience says that these things don't happen at the speed of light >>> like we would hope for. Accessibility improvements tend to just gradually >>> happen with no real advanced notice, which, of course, is Apple's way with >>> most things. We need to continue expressing the need to have these >>> accessibility issues addressed and also continue sharing workarounds as, >>> sometimes, these are the things that help people understand and improve on >>> the accessibility issues. >>> >>> Sorry, not much real help for you here. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On May 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mary, >>>> >>>> First of all, the only useful selection in the radio group you mentioned >>>> is the list. Nothing else works well with vo. >>>> I'll go over some tricks I've found helpful in reading and navigating a >>>> book. First, I've found it helpful to turn off cursor tracking as the >>>> chapter navigation does not work for some reason win focus is in the HTML >>>> content. >>>> Next, you can route the mouse to the scroll area and press vo-f5. This >>>> will read the book content that is actually being displayed. Now you can >>>> move from chapter to chapter with command-shift-left or >>>> command-shift-right. When you do this, the displayed content you read >>>> with vo-f5 will change. You can move vo directly to the displayed content >>>> for reading by routing it to the mouse. You actually could not do this in >>>> the first release, but they did fix this. Also, you won't have large >>>> chunks of text that vo won't read at all. >>>> >>>> I agree with most of your comments about iBooks. I think it really could >>>> and should have been better. I believe that it is currently in the best >>>> state that it's been in however, and I am able to use it affectively in >>>> the way I described. I hope you find something I said useful keeping in >>>> mind that while the methods work for me presently, there are glitches as >>>> always. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 21, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Having read on one of the lists I'm on, I think this one, but I might be >>>> wrong, that accessibility to iBooks was somewhat improved with the recent >>>> update, I have tried to get to grips with it, and have failed completely. >>>> When I first opened the program, it offered to import my several hundred >>>> books, and I said yes to that. I have reopened the program, and I have >>>> found a series of radio buttons that let me select among collections, all >>>> books and some other choices I don't recall. I picked collections, and I >>>> see a table that has my collection names in it. If I select one and quit >>>> interacting, I see absolutely no indication anywhere that I can actually >>>> access a list of books, much less open one. I've been through the menus >>>> with no help. I've been in preferences and found nothing useful. There are >>>> a few unlabeled buttons that somebody suggested were easy to label. I'd >>>> like to know how, since there are no hints associated with these. All in >>>> all, I find this application to be totally frustrating and a really bad >>>> example of what I thought was Apple's commitment to accessibility. >>>> Especially since they want iBooks in schools, you'd think they'd have made >>>> this totally VO accessible. >>>> >>>> So, for those of you who find this application efficiently usable, please >>>> tell me what I'm missing. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> Mary Otten >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> Barry Hadder >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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