Janina Sajka writes:
> Argh.
>
> So, I downloaded the .zip file from colloquy.info, but there's no
> readme, or any other kind of installation instruction. I'm also not
> finding any installation instruction on their page.
>
> Looking at the file structure of the exploded .zip, I see the top level
> directory is colloquy.app, inside of which is a directory called
> Contents, and inside that a few more. These look very similar to what I
> see under /Library/"Application Support"/
>
> Do I simply copy this tree to that folder in order to install Colloquy?
> Do I leave the .app as part of the directory name, or not? i.e. is it:
>
> /Library/Application Support/colloquy.app or
> /Library/Application Support/colloquy
>
> Does it matter?
>
> I know I've done this once or twice before, but don't recall the
> specifics, so appreciate any guidance.
>
> tia
>
> Janina
>
> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > Not all apps are in the iTunes store. Some don't want to bother with the
> > whole submission/review process for various reasons, especially the free
> > open-source apps.
> >
> > CB
> >
> > On 11/5/14, 4:00 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > >This was also James Craig's suggestion to me, when I asked him last
> > >week. However, he did indicate there were still issues.
> > >
> > >Also, when I tried to find it on iTunes, I came up empty.
> > >
> > >Janina
> > >
> > >'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > >>Years ago I remember hearing that Colloquy was accessible but I think it
> > >>relied on Growl to speak incoming messages. It's an OSX (not terminal) app
> > >>and free so might be worth giving it a try.
> > >>
> > >>http://colloquy.info
> > >>
> > >>CB
> > >>
> > >>On 11/5/14, 2:30 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > >>>Hi, Deedra:
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm not so sure it's an actual plus, just a reasonable work around when
> > >>>you need one. But, I've not tried actually working with irssi in the
> > >>>terminal in real time yet. I just came up with the approach and brewed
> > >>>it up this past Monday following a disasterous week trying to use the
> > >>>vms on my air during the annual W3C technical plennary conference.
> > >>>
> > >>>My intent is to log in during my next few teleconferences and see how it
> > >>>tracks. I will still have my Linux desktop as my primary IRC session, so
> > >>>the IRC session on my Air will be a second, expirimental login to the
> > >>>W3C IRC channel.
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll be interested to see how well VO keeps up as text scrolls on
> > >>>screen. I may try to look for something, just to see how effective that
> > >>>might be. But, come to think of it, I usually depend on Scroll Lock to
> > >>>freeze the screen when I look for something further back in the
> > >>>transcript, and I'm not so sure we have that on the Air. Anyone know?
> > >>>
> > >>>So far, my impression of VO in the Terminal is that it will work, if you
> > >>>need it to work, but it would never be my first choice. It's no Speakup
> > >>>for sure.
> > >>>
> > >>>Janina
> > >>>
> > >>>Deedra Waters writes:
> > >>>>Janina, that sounds like a plus there. how much of the terminal actually
> > >>>>works with voiceover and how well? I'd still be using a lot of terminal
> > >>>>apps accept for certain things that i want the gui for. so i'd like a
> > >>>>good idea as to what to expect from the terminal and ways to make it
> > >>>>work the best.
> > >>>>
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Hi, All:
I wanted to ask whether I just missed something during the upgrade from
Mavericks to Yosemite, or whether others have seen what I experienced.
I followed up on my emailed invitation from Apple to upgrade. I did my
best to pay careful attention to all the prompts. I attained a
successful install eventually, or so I believed.
Imagine my surprise, then, when I was unable to log in. The familiar
login screen where I select my user, then tab and VO+Down to enter my
password didn't come up. In fact, the only way I knew my machine wasn't
dead was that the battery was warm.
Once I got sighted assistance, it transpired that my ssd had been
encrypted. I don't recall agreeing, and it turns out that mattered a
lot.
The old login screens no longer apply, it seems, when your drive is
encrypted. In fact, VO can't really work at the login screen to an
encrypted drive. Instead, apple provides some pre-recorded prompts that
are played when you Command+F5.
You can tab and hear a prompt for username, but there's no echo as you
type.
You can tab again and hear a prompt for password, and you do get a click
per keystroke, though with much more lag than usual.
If you tab again and successfully log in, you (usually) get three beeps.
Thought I didn't always hear those three beeps, they indicate successful
log in. One beep means "put in your username," and two means "put in
your password."
If the machine decides that you've been mis-entering your password,
you're dumped into a screen that offers to let you reset your password.
This turns out to have its own set of gotchya's. You may, or may not, be
able to Esc out to ausername plus password login screen.
Last Friday evening I found myself alone in my hotel room unable to get
out of that screen. I tried changing my password, but this took me into
screens for which there were no recorded prompts. I had to go find
sighted assistance.
Once I got past part of the inaccessible "change password" screen, I was
given the message that my new password didn't match what was stored in
my Keychain file. To clear that hurdle, I had to enter my old password.
Imagine that.
Well, I got through all that, and got the machine booted. But, I haven't
dared shutdown or reboot unless I have someone sighted at hand just in
case. This just ain't right. Am I the lone stranger with this situation?
Janina
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