Hi, Yes, and in the Finder:
• cmd-o on file.zip. (The Mac has a built-in unzipper, so, nothing special to do) • cmd-c on the app from the subsequent window and cmd-v into the Applications folder. GUI or Terminal, simple process. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Georgina Joyce <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > This is a lot easier in the terminal for those who are familiar with bash and > with a file that is structured as colloquy.zip. > > unzip Downloads/MyFile.zip > cp -r Downloads/MyFile /Applications/ > > Gena > >> On 6 Nov 2014, at 22:33, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Sounds like Janina is poking at things through the terminal. Not that there >> is anything wrong with that but from the GUI the .app directory appears as >> one single file even though it has lots of subdirectories under the hood. So >> the easiest thing is to do it from the GUI. Move the package from wherever >> you unzipped it and put it in your Applications folder. This is one case >> where it really is easier to do it outside the terminal :) >> >> CB >> >> On 11/6/14, 1:14 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> The app doesn't need to be installed, in the usual sense. Copy it to your >>> Applications folder (cmd-shift-a), but that's more of a housekeeping thing >>> than a requirement. Just launch the app to use it, like any other app on >>> the Mac. >>>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Janina Sajka writes: >>>>> Argh. >>>>> >>>>> So, I downloaded the .zip file from colloquy.info, but there's no >>>>> readme, or any other kind of installation instruction. I'm also not >>>>> finding any installation instruction on their page. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at the file structure of the exploded .zip, I see the top level >>>>> directory is colloquy.app, inside of which is a directory called >>>>> Contents, and inside that a few more. These look very similar to what I >>>>> see under /Library/"Application Support"/ >>>>> >>>>> Do I simply copy this tree to that folder in order to install Colloquy? >>>>> Do I leave the .app as part of the directory name, or not? i.e. is it: >>>>> >>>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy.app or >>>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy >>>>> >>>>> Does it matter? >>>>> >>>>> I know I've done this once or twice before, but don't recall the >>>>> specifics, so appreciate any guidance. >>>>> >>>>> tia >>>>> >>>>> Janina >>>>> >>>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: >>>>>> Not all apps are in the iTunes store. Some don't want to bother with the >>>>>> whole submission/review process for various reasons, especially the free >>>>>> open-source apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/5/14, 4:00 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>>>>>> This was also James Craig's suggestion to me, when I asked him last >>>>>>> week. However, he did indicate there were still issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, when I tried to find it on iTunes, I came up empty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: >>>>>>>> Years ago I remember hearing that Colloquy was accessible but I think >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> relied on Growl to speak incoming messages. It's an OSX (not terminal) >>>>>>>> app >>>>>>>> and free so might be worth giving it a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://colloquy.info <http://colloquy.info/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/5/14, 2:30 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, Deedra: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not so sure it's an actual plus, just a reasonable work around >>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>> you need one. But, I've not tried actually working with irssi in the >>>>>>>>> terminal in real time yet. I just came up with the approach and brewed >>>>>>>>> it up this past Monday following a disasterous week trying to use the >>>>>>>>> vms on my air during the annual W3C technical plennary conference. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My intent is to log in during my next few teleconferences and see how >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> tracks. I will still have my Linux desktop as my primary IRC session, >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>> the IRC session on my Air will be a second, expirimental login to the >>>>>>>>> W3C IRC channel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll be interested to see how well VO keeps up as text scrolls on >>>>>>>>> screen. I may try to look for something, just to see how effective >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> might be. But, come to think of it, I usually depend on Scroll Lock to >>>>>>>>> freeze the screen when I look for something further back in the >>>>>>>>> transcript, and I'm not so sure we have that on the Air. Anyone know? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So far, my impression of VO in the Terminal is that it will work, if >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> need it to work, but it would never be my first choice. It's no >>>>>>>>> Speakup >>>>>>>>> for sure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Janina >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deedra Waters writes: >>>>>>>>>> Janina, that sounds like a plus there. how much of the terminal >>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>> works with voiceover and how well? I'd still be using a lot of >>>>>>>>>> terminal >>>>>>>>>> apps accept for certain things that i want the gui for. so i'd like a >>>>>>>>>> good idea as to what to expect from the terminal and ways to make it >>>>>>>>>> work the best. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com >>>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/> >>>>>>>>>> blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog >>>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>>>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> >>>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>>>> <http://a11y.org/> >>>>> >>>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>>>> Chair, >>>>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>>>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> >>>>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ >>>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>> >>>> Hi, All: >>>> >>>> I wanted to ask whether I just missed something during the upgrade from >>>> Mavericks to Yosemite, or whether others have seen what I experienced. >>>> >>>> I followed up on my emailed invitation from Apple to upgrade. I did my >>>> best to pay careful attention to all the prompts. I attained a >>>> successful install eventually, or so I believed. >>>> >>>> Imagine my surprise, then, when I was unable to log in. The familiar >>>> login screen where I select my user, then tab and VO+Down to enter my >>>> password didn't come up. In fact, the only way I knew my machine wasn't >>>> dead was that the battery was warm. >>>> >>>> Once I got sighted assistance, it transpired that my ssd had been >>>> encrypted. I don't recall agreeing, and it turns out that mattered a >>>> lot. >>>> >>>> The old login screens no longer apply, it seems, when your drive is >>>> encrypted. In fact, VO can't really work at the login screen to an >>>> encrypted drive. Instead, apple provides some pre-recorded prompts that >>>> are played when you Command+F5. >>>> >>>> You can tab and hear a prompt for username, but there's no echo as you >>>> type. >>>> >>>> You can tab again and hear a prompt for password, and you do get a click >>>> per keystroke, though with much more lag than usual. >>>> >>>> If you tab again and successfully log in, you (usually) get three beeps. >>>> Thought I didn't always hear those three beeps, they indicate successful >>>> log in. One beep means "put in your username," and two means "put in >>>> your password." >>>> >>>> If the machine decides that you've been mis-entering your password, >>>> you're dumped into a screen that offers to let you reset your password. >>>> This turns out to have its own set of gotchya's. You may, or may not, be >>>> able to Esc out to ausername plus password login screen. >>>> >>>> Last Friday evening I found myself alone in my hotel room unable to get >>>> out of that screen. I tried changing my password, but this took me into >>>> screens for which there were no recorded prompts. I had to go find >>>> sighted assistance. >>>> >>>> Once I got past part of the inaccessible "change password" screen, I was >>>> given the message that my new password didn't match what was stored in >>>> my Keychain file. To clear that hurdle, I had to enter my old password. >>>> Imagine that. >>>> >>>> Well, I got through all that, and got the machine booted. But, I haven't >>>> dared shutdown or reboot unless I have someone sighted at hand just in >>>> case. This just ain't right. Am I the lone stranger with this situation? >>>> >>>> Janina >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> >>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>>> <http://a11y.org/> >>>> >>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>>> Chair, >>>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> >>>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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