Hello Chris, This is a lot easier in the terminal for those who are familiar with bash and with a file that is structured as colloquy.zip.
unzip Downloads/MyFile.zip cp -r Downloads/MyFile /Applications/ Gena > On 6 Nov 2014, at 22:33, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sounds like Janina is poking at things through the terminal. Not that there > is anything wrong with that but from the GUI the .app directory appears as > one single file even though it has lots of subdirectories under the hood. So > the easiest thing is to do it from the GUI. Move the package from wherever > you unzipped it and put it in your Applications folder. This is one case > where it really is easier to do it outside the terminal :) > > CB > > On 11/6/14, 1:14 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> The app doesn't need to be installed, in the usual sense. Copy it to your >> Applications folder (cmd-shift-a), but that's more of a housekeeping thing >> than a requirement. Just launch the app to use it, like any other app on the >> Mac. >>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Janina Sajka writes: >>>> Argh. >>>> >>>> So, I downloaded the .zip file from colloquy.info, but there's no >>>> readme, or any other kind of installation instruction. I'm also not >>>> finding any installation instruction on their page. >>>> >>>> Looking at the file structure of the exploded .zip, I see the top level >>>> directory is colloquy.app, inside of which is a directory called >>>> Contents, and inside that a few more. These look very similar to what I >>>> see under /Library/"Application Support"/ >>>> >>>> Do I simply copy this tree to that folder in order to install Colloquy? >>>> Do I leave the .app as part of the directory name, or not? i.e. is it: >>>> >>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy.app or >>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy >>>> >>>> Does it matter? >>>> >>>> I know I've done this once or twice before, but don't recall the >>>> specifics, so appreciate any guidance. >>>> >>>> tia >>>> >>>> Janina >>>> >>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: >>>>> Not all apps are in the iTunes store. Some don't want to bother with the >>>>> whole submission/review process for various reasons, especially the free >>>>> open-source apps. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 11/5/14, 4:00 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>>>>> This was also James Craig's suggestion to me, when I asked him last >>>>>> week. However, he did indicate there were still issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, when I tried to find it on iTunes, I came up empty. >>>>>> >>>>>> Janina >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: >>>>>>> Years ago I remember hearing that Colloquy was accessible but I think it >>>>>>> relied on Growl to speak incoming messages. It's an OSX (not terminal) >>>>>>> app >>>>>>> and free so might be worth giving it a try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://colloquy.info <http://colloquy.info/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/5/14, 2:30 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, Deedra: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not so sure it's an actual plus, just a reasonable work around when >>>>>>>> you need one. But, I've not tried actually working with irssi in the >>>>>>>> terminal in real time yet. I just came up with the approach and brewed >>>>>>>> it up this past Monday following a disasterous week trying to use the >>>>>>>> vms on my air during the annual W3C technical plennary conference. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My intent is to log in during my next few teleconferences and see how >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> tracks. I will still have my Linux desktop as my primary IRC session, >>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> the IRC session on my Air will be a second, expirimental login to the >>>>>>>> W3C IRC channel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll be interested to see how well VO keeps up as text scrolls on >>>>>>>> screen. I may try to look for something, just to see how effective that >>>>>>>> might be. But, come to think of it, I usually depend on Scroll Lock to >>>>>>>> freeze the screen when I look for something further back in the >>>>>>>> transcript, and I'm not so sure we have that on the Air. Anyone know? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far, my impression of VO in the Terminal is that it will work, if >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> need it to work, but it would never be my first choice. It's no Speakup >>>>>>>> for sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Janina >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Deedra Waters writes: >>>>>>>>> Janina, that sounds like a plus there. how much of the terminal >>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>> works with voiceover and how well? I'd still be >>>>>>>>> using a lot of terminal >>>>>>>>> apps accept for certain things that i want the gui for. so i'd like a >>>>>>>>> good idea as to what to expect from the terminal and ways to make it >>>>>>>>> work the best. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com >>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/> >>>>>>>>> blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog >>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>>>>>> emails from it, send an email >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> >>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>>> <http://a11y.org/> >>>> >>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>>> Chair, >>>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> >>>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> Hi, All: >>> >>> I wanted to ask whether I just missed something during the upgrade from >>> Mavericks to Yosemite, or whether others have seen what I experienced. >>> >>> I followed up on my emailed invitation from Apple to upgrade. I did my >>> best to pay careful attention to all the prompts. I attained a >>> successful install eventually, or so I believed. >>> >>> Imagine my surprise, then, when I was unable to log in. The familiar >>> login screen where I select my user, then tab and VO+Down to enter my >>> password didn't come up. In fact, the only way I knew my machine wasn't >>> dead was that the battery was warm. >>> >>> Once I got sighted assistance, it transpired that my ssd had been >>> encrypted. I don't recall agreeing, and it turns out that mattered a >>> lot. >>> >>> The old login screens no longer apply, it seems, when your drive is >>> encrypted. In fact, VO can't really work at the login screen to an >>> encrypted drive. Instead, apple provides some pre-recorded prompts that >>> are played when you Command+F5. >>> >>> You can tab and hear a prompt for username, but there's no echo as you >>> type. >>> >>> You can tab again and hear a prompt for password, and you do get a click >>> per keystroke, though with much more lag than usual. >>> >>> If you tab again and successfully log in, you (usually) get three beeps. >>> Thought I didn't always hear those three beeps, they indicate successful >>> log in. One beep means "put in your username," and two means "put in >>> your password." >>> >>> If the machine decides that you've been mis-entering your password, >>> you're dumped into a screen that offers to let you reset your password. >>> This turns out to have its own set of gotchya's. You may, or may not, be >>> able to Esc out to ausername plus password login screen. >>> >>> Last Friday evening I found myself alone in my hotel room unable to get >>> out of that screen. I tried changing my password, but this took me into >>> screens for which there were no recorded prompts. I had to go find >>> sighted assistance. >>> >>> Once I got past part of the inaccessible "change password" screen, I was >>> given the message that my new password didn't match what was stored in >>> my Keychain file. To clear that hurdle, I had to enter my old password. >>> Imagine that. >>> >>> Well, I got through all that, and got the machine booted. But, I haven't >>> dared shutdown or reboot unless I have someone sighted at hand just in >>> case. This just ain't right. Am I the lone stranger with this situation? >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> >>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org <http://a11y.org/> >>> >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >>> Chair, >>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> >>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>> it, send an email [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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