Not sure how this discussion moved under this subject, because "Burned" was a separate post, and I'd really like to hear whether anyone else has had similar experiences upgrading to Yosemite.
In any case, Georgina is correct. It's trivial from a CLI, as long as you know where to put things. There is one more command, though, namely: chown -R root:wheel /Applications/Colloquy.app Janina Georgina Joyce writes: > Hello Chris, > > This is a lot easier in the terminal for those who are familiar with bash and > with a file that is structured as colloquy.zip. > > unzip Downloads/MyFile.zip > cp -r Downloads/MyFile /Applications/ > > Gena > > > On 6 Nov 2014, at 22:33, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sounds like Janina is poking at things through the terminal. Not that there > > is anything wrong with that but from the GUI the .app directory appears as > > one single file even though it has lots of subdirectories under the hood. > > So the easiest thing is to do it from the GUI. Move the package from > > wherever you unzipped it and put it in your Applications folder. This is > > one case where it really is easier to do it outside the terminal :) > > > > CB > > > > On 11/6/14, 1:14 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> The app doesn't need to be installed, in the usual sense. Copy it to your > >> Applications folder (cmd-shift-a), but that's more of a housekeeping thing > >> than a requirement. Just launch the app to use it, like any other app on > >> the Mac. > >>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Janina Sajka writes: > >>>> Argh. > >>>> > >>>> So, I downloaded the .zip file from colloquy.info, but there's no > >>>> readme, or any other kind of installation instruction. I'm also not > >>>> finding any installation instruction on their page. > >>>> > >>>> Looking at the file structure of the exploded .zip, I see the top level > >>>> directory is colloquy.app, inside of which is a directory called > >>>> Contents, and inside that a few more. These look very similar to what I > >>>> see under /Library/"Application Support"/ > >>>> > >>>> Do I simply copy this tree to that folder in order to install Colloquy? > >>>> Do I leave the .app as part of the directory name, or not? i.e. is it: > >>>> > >>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy.app or > >>>> /Library/Application Support/colloquy > >>>> > >>>> Does it matter? > >>>> > >>>> I know I've done this once or twice before, but don't recall the > >>>> specifics, so appreciate any guidance. > >>>> > >>>> tia > >>>> > >>>> Janina > >>>> > >>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: > >>>>> Not all apps are in the iTunes store. Some don't want to bother with the > >>>>> whole submission/review process for various reasons, especially the free > >>>>> open-source apps. > >>>>> > >>>>> CB > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11/5/14, 4:00 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > >>>>>> This was also James Craig's suggestion to me, when I asked him last > >>>>>> week. However, he did indicate there were still issues. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also, when I tried to find it on iTunes, I came up empty. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Janina > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes: > >>>>>>> Years ago I remember hearing that Colloquy was accessible but I think > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> relied on Growl to speak incoming messages. It's an OSX (not > >>>>>>> terminal) app > >>>>>>> and free so might be worth giving it a try. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://colloquy.info <http://colloquy.info/> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> CB > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 11/5/14, 2:30 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi, Deedra: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm not so sure it's an actual plus, just a reasonable work around > >>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>> you need one. But, I've not tried actually working with irssi in the > >>>>>>>> terminal in real time yet. I just came up with the approach and > >>>>>>>> brewed > >>>>>>>> it up this past Monday following a disasterous week trying to use the > >>>>>>>> vms on my air during the annual W3C technical plennary conference. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My intent is to log in during my next few teleconferences and see > >>>>>>>> how it > >>>>>>>> tracks. I will still have my Linux desktop as my primary IRC > >>>>>>>> session, so > >>>>>>>> the IRC session on my Air will be a second, expirimental login to the > >>>>>>>> W3C IRC channel. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'll be interested to see how well VO keeps up as text scrolls on > >>>>>>>> screen. I may try to look for something, just to see how effective > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> might be. But, come to think of it, I usually depend on Scroll Lock > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> freeze the screen when I look for something further back in the > >>>>>>>> transcript, and I'm not so sure we have that on the Air. Anyone know? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So far, my impression of VO in the Terminal is that it will work, if > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>> need it to work, but it would never be my first choice. It's no > >>>>>>>> Speakup > >>>>>>>> for sure. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Janina > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Deedra Waters writes: > >>>>>>>>> Janina, that sounds like a plus there. how much of the terminal > >>>>>>>>> actually > >>>>>>>>> works with voiceover and how well? I'd still be > >>>>>>>>> using a lot of terminal > >>>>>>>>> apps accept for certain things that i want the gui for. so i'd like > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> good idea as to what to expect from the terminal and ways to make > >>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> work the best. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com > >>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/> > >>>>>>>>> blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog > >>>>>>>>> <http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>>>>>>> send an email [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>>>>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving > >>>>>>> emails from it, send an email > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] > >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>>>>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>>> an email to [email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > >>>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> > >>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> > >>>> Linux Foundation Fellow > >>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > >>>> <http://a11y.org/> > >>>> > >>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>>> Chair, > >>>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > >>>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> > >>>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ > >>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email [email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >>> > >>> Hi, All: > >>> > >>> I wanted to ask whether I just missed something during the upgrade from > >>> Mavericks to Yosemite, or whether others have seen what I experienced. > >>> > >>> I followed up on my emailed invitation from Apple to upgrade. I did my > >>> best to pay careful attention to all the prompts. I attained a > >>> successful install eventually, or so I believed. > >>> > >>> Imagine my surprise, then, when I was unable to log in. The familiar > >>> login screen where I select my user, then tab and VO+Down to enter my > >>> password didn't come up. In fact, the only way I knew my machine wasn't > >>> dead was that the battery was warm. > >>> > >>> Once I got sighted assistance, it transpired that my ssd had been > >>> encrypted. I don't recall agreeing, and it turns out that mattered a > >>> lot. > >>> > >>> The old login screens no longer apply, it seems, when your drive is > >>> encrypted. In fact, VO can't really work at the login screen to an > >>> encrypted drive. Instead, apple provides some pre-recorded prompts that > >>> are played when you Command+F5. > >>> > >>> You can tab and hear a prompt for username, but there's no echo as you > >>> type. > >>> > >>> You can tab again and hear a prompt for password, and you do get a click > >>> per keystroke, though with much more lag than usual. > >>> > >>> If you tab again and successfully log in, you (usually) get three beeps. > >>> Thought I didn't always hear those three beeps, they indicate successful > >>> log in. One beep means "put in your username," and two means "put in > >>> your password." > >>> > >>> If the machine decides that you've been mis-entering your password, > >>> you're dumped into a screen that offers to let you reset your password. > >>> This turns out to have its own set of gotchya's. You may, or may not, be > >>> able to Esc out to ausername plus password login screen. > >>> > >>> Last Friday evening I found myself alone in my hotel room unable to get > >>> out of that screen. I tried changing my password, but this took me into > >>> screens for which there were no recorded prompts. I had to go find > >>> sighted assistance. > >>> > >>> Once I got past part of the inaccessible "change password" screen, I was > >>> given the message that my new password didn't match what was stored in > >>> my Keychain file. To clear that hurdle, I had to enter my old password. > >>> Imagine that. > >>> > >>> Well, I got through all that, and got the machine booted. But, I haven't > >>> dared shutdown or reboot unless I have someone sighted at hand just in > >>> case. This just ain't right. Am I the lone stranger with this situation? > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > >>> sip:[email protected] <sip:[email protected]> > >>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > >>> Linux Foundation Fellow > >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > >>> <http://a11y.org/> > >>> > >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > >>> Chair, > >>> Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > >>> <http://www.w3.org/wai/pf> > >>> Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ > >>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > >>> it, send an email [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>> To post to this group, send email [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Have a great day, > >> Alex Hall > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > > -- > > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:[email protected] Email: [email protected] Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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