Yes Ray. It works through voiceover and it's fine if all you need to do is 
enter a command or two; you can hear what you are typing. But in my opinion 
it's more of a pain if you want to know the output that is being presented and 
need to review that output and continue to make entries based on that.

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Terminal works through voiceover. You just going to terminal from the finder, 
> and from there, you can use terminal in voiceover.
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone,
> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
> On Dec 11, 2014, at 4:08 PM, deedra waters <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does running 
>> the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to talk?
>> 
>>    
>> deedra waters
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable from 
>>> terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up and 
>>> running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want inside 
>>> that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not Linux. 
>>> It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. I 
>>>> just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, for 
>>>>> which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been able to 
>>>>> find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do plan to 
>>>>> eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal isn't much 
>>>>> fun though it can be used for entering commands without too much trouble. 
>>>>> With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the terminal for any 
>>>>> length of time because I've had issues with terminal crashing and it 
>>>>> doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up 
>>>>> an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux 
>>>>> needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in 
>>>>> terminal also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of 
>>>>>> the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to 
>>>>>> sit in the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  
>>>>>> and was actually not bored there for once.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in the 
>>>>>> hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical issues. 
>>>>>> This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have books at 
>>>>>> least!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. I 
>>>>>> was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought to 
>>>>>> play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our 
>>>>>> lives from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for 
>>>>>> example tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac and 
>>>>>> linux with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get what  
>>>>>> you want. Little things like that ended up requiring the linux/unix 
>>>>>> skills of my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some other python 
>>>>>> tools to work properly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple 
>>>>>> mac type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy 
>>>>>> vmware fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up 
>>>>>> and running for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill for 
>>>>>> a way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps that 
>>>>>> just make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as sick 
>>>>>> as i am, that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to get  as 
>>>>>> much of my medical records as possible put into the app so that way if 
>>>>>> worse comes to worse all i have to do is turn voiceover off, they should 
>>>>>> be able to access and read the info then give the thing back to me. In 
>>>>>> theory at least it sounds like a great idea. I’m probably going to have 
>>>>>> to find a way of getting the data to export to a readable format such as 
>>>>>> pdf for them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think 
>>>>>> that that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes 
>>>>>> podcasts.:)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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