Hello Deedra, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#idp52017744
Gena Georgina Joyce Applied Psychologist Training and Coaching. Because individuals of groups matter! > On 12 Dec 2014, at 15:35, deedra waters <dee...@the-brannons.com> wrote: > > Err, i didn’t even know there was a mac installer. I went under the > assumption that it required macports since that’s what most linux type things > need to be built > > deedra waters > dee...@the-brannons.com > > > >> On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:31 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Ummm, why does it require apple-gcc? You just download the Mac installer and >> you're good to go. Nothing to compile, brew, yum or whatever. I have it >> running just fine on a generic OSX 10.10 box. >> >> CB >> >> On 12/12/14, 10:09 AM, deedra waters wrote: >>> Yeah i figured that out after the fact can’t go the virtual box route >>> because it requires apple-gcc which isn’t available on my version of OS X >>> >>> deedra waters >>> dee...@the-brannons.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you Google "virtualbox command line" you'll find lots of stuff. This >>>> one for installing Ubuntu seemed good: >>>> >>>> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/ >>>> >>>> Once you have virtualbox installed you can always do a man VBoxManage to >>>> get all the possible commands. >>>> >>>> Here is a more recipe style setup: >>>> >>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/ >>>> >>>> Nice thing is this is all free so if you don't like it or it doesn't work >>>> for you the way you want you're not out any cash. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 12/11/14, 8:18 PM, deedra waters wrote: >>>>> If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with >>>>> virtual box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what >>>>> happens. Any tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> deedra waters >>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay >>>>>> for that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you >>>>>> just do VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the >>>>>> standard Mac one so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself >>>>>> installed. As far as what happens inside the virtual machine, that >>>>>> depends on what you install there. The virtual machine software is just >>>>>> an emulation of a plain old intel PC. So what you install there is only >>>>>> as accessible as a real box would be. So if you like speak on linux on a >>>>>> hardware PC then you'll need to get it that installed on linux on your >>>>>> virtual PC. That won't change any whether you run virtualbox or vmware. >>>>>> Once you're in the guest OS the virtualization system is not involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote: >>>>>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command >>>>>>> line…. as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how >>>>>>> does running the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command >>>>>>> line to talk? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> deedra waters >>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same >>>>>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very >>>>>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable >>>>>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox >>>>>>>> up and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you >>>>>>>> want inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that >>>>>>>> OSX is not Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote: >>>>>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective >>>>>>>>> and not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way >>>>>>>>> to go. I just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i >>>>>>>>> want is 1 linux vm that’s useable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> deedra waters >>>>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use >>>>>>>>>> brltty, for which I know I should write a README but honestly I >>>>>>>>>> haven't been able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it >>>>>>>>>> first, I truly do plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without >>>>>>>>>> brltty, the terminal isn't much fun though it can be used for >>>>>>>>>> entering commands without too much trouble. With brltty, I just turn >>>>>>>>>> voiceover off if using the terminal for any length of time because >>>>>>>>>> I've had issues with terminal crashing and it doesn't seem to happen >>>>>>>>>> if voiceover isn't on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed >>>>>>>>>> up an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my >>>>>>>>>> linux needs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in >>>>>>>>>> terminal also. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cheryl >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year; >>>>>>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us), >>>>>>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior, >>>>>>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters >>>>>>>>>>> <dee...@the-brannons.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with what i got in terms >>>>>>>>>>> of the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was >>>>>>>>>>> able to sit in the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see >>>>>>>>>>> the doctor and was actually not bored there for once. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in >>>>>>>>>>> the hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical >>>>>>>>>>> issues. This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have >>>>>>>>>>> books at least! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to >>>>>>>>>>> do. I was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d >>>>>>>>>>> brought to play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of >>>>>>>>>>> days of our lives from the iTunes store *snicker* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for >>>>>>>>>>> example tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the >>>>>>>>>>> mac and linux with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 >>>>>>>>>>> to get what you want. Little things like that ended up requiring >>>>>>>>>>> the linux/unix skills of my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and >>>>>>>>>>> some other python tools to work properly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the terminal though I mean it does >>>>>>>>>>> simple mac type things fine and works well enough for that but >>>>>>>>>>> unless i buy vmware fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of >>>>>>>>>>> getting a linux vm up and running for those tasks that just don’t >>>>>>>>>>> do well in the mac terminal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The speech interrupts are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill >>>>>>>>>>> for a way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few >>>>>>>>>>> apps that just make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. >>>>>>>>>>> With as sick as i am, that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been >>>>>>>>>>> working to get as much of my medical records as possible put into >>>>>>>>>>> the app so that way if worse comes to worse all i have to do is >>>>>>>>>>> turn voiceover off, they should be able to access and read the info >>>>>>>>>>> then give the thing back to me. In theory at least it sounds like a >>>>>>>>>>> great idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of getting the >>>>>>>>>>> data to export to a readable format such as pdf for them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i >>>>>>>>>>> think that that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down >>>>>>>>>>> iTunes podcasts.:) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> deedra waters >>>>>>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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