Err, i didn’t even know there was a mac installer. I went under the assumption
that it required macports since that’s what most linux type things need to be
built
deedra waters
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> On Dec 12, 2014, at 7:31 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ummm, why does it require apple-gcc? You just download the Mac installer and
> you're good to go. Nothing to compile, brew, yum or whatever. I have it
> running just fine on a generic OSX 10.10 box.
>
> CB
>
> On 12/12/14, 10:09 AM, deedra waters wrote:
>> Yeah i figured that out after the fact can’t go the virtual box route
>> because it requires apple-gcc which isn’t available on my version of OS X
>>
>> deedra waters
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you Google "virtualbox command line" you'll find lots of stuff. This one
>>> for installing Ubuntu seemed good:
>>>
>>> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/
>>>
>>> Once you have virtualbox installed you can always do a man VBoxManage to
>>> get all the possible commands.
>>>
>>> Here is a more recipe style setup:
>>>
>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
>>>
>>> Nice thing is this is all free so if you don't like it or it doesn't work
>>> for you the way you want you're not out any cash.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> On 12/11/14, 8:18 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with
>>>> virtual box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what happens.
>>>> Any tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay for
>>>>> that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you just do
>>>>> VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the standard Mac
>>>>> one so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself installed. As
>>>>> far as what happens inside the virtual machine, that depends on what you
>>>>> install there. The virtual machine software is just an emulation of a
>>>>> plain old intel PC. So what you install there is only as accessible as a
>>>>> real box would be. So if you like speak on linux on a hardware PC then
>>>>> you'll need to get it that installed on linux on your virtual PC. That
>>>>> won't change any whether you run virtualbox or vmware. Once you're in the
>>>>> guest OS the virtualization system is not involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> CB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command
>>>>>> line…. as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how
>>>>>> does running the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command
>>>>>> line to talk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same
>>>>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very
>>>>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable
>>>>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox
>>>>>>> up and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you
>>>>>>> want inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX
>>>>>>> is not Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective
>>>>>>>> and not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way
>>>>>>>> to go. I just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i
>>>>>>>> want is 1 linux vm that’s useable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty,
>>>>>>>>> for which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been
>>>>>>>>> able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do
>>>>>>>>> plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal
>>>>>>>>> isn't much fun though it can be used for entering commands without
>>>>>>>>> too much trouble. With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the
>>>>>>>>> terminal for any length of time because I've had issues with terminal
>>>>>>>>> crashing and it doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed
>>>>>>>>> up an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my
>>>>>>>>> linux needs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in
>>>>>>>>> terminal also.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with what i got in terms
>>>>>>>>>> of the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was
>>>>>>>>>> able to sit in the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see
>>>>>>>>>> the doctor and was actually not bored there for once.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in
>>>>>>>>>> the hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical
>>>>>>>>>> issues. This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have
>>>>>>>>>> books at least!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to
>>>>>>>>>> do. I was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d
>>>>>>>>>> brought to play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of
>>>>>>>>>> days of our lives from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for
>>>>>>>>>> example tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac
>>>>>>>>>> and linux with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to
>>>>>>>>>> get what you want. Little things like that ended up requiring the
>>>>>>>>>> linux/unix skills of my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some
>>>>>>>>>> other python tools to work properly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the terminal though I mean it does
>>>>>>>>>> simple mac type things fine and works well enough for that but
>>>>>>>>>> unless i buy vmware fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of
>>>>>>>>>> getting a linux vm up and running for those tasks that just don’t do
>>>>>>>>>> well in the mac terminal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The speech interrupts are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill
>>>>>>>>>> for a way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few
>>>>>>>>>> apps that just make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app.
>>>>>>>>>> With as sick as i am, that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been
>>>>>>>>>> working to get as much of my medical records as possible put into
>>>>>>>>>> the app so that way if worse comes to worse all i have to do is turn
>>>>>>>>>> voiceover off, they should be able to access and read the info then
>>>>>>>>>> give the thing back to me. In theory at least it sounds like a great
>>>>>>>>>> idea. I’m probably going to have to find a way of getting the data
>>>>>>>>>> to export to a readable format such as pdf for them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think
>>>>>>>>>> that that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes
>>>>>>>>>> podcasts.:)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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