Yeah i figured that out after the fact can’t go the virtual box route because 
it requires apple-gcc which isn’t available on my version of OS X

deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com



> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> If you Google "virtualbox command line" you'll find lots of stuff. This one 
> for installing Ubuntu seemed good:
> 
> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/
> 
> Once you have virtualbox installed you can always do a man VBoxManage to get 
> all the possible commands.
> 
> Here is a more recipe style setup:
> 
> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/
> 
> Nice thing is this is all free so if you don't like it or it doesn't work for 
> you the way you want you're not out any cash.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/11/14, 8:18 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>> If i’m understanding you right, you can both setup and use the vm with 
>> virtual box and the command line. I’ll give it a try and see what happens. 
>> Any tutorials out there on how to set up and run the vm?
>> 
>> 
>> deedra waters
>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:32 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Most folks who don't want to deal with the CLI use VMWare but you pay for 
>>> that convenience. I haven't used it with Linux but generally you just do 
>>> VBoxManage startvm vmname. The VirtualBox installer is the standard Mac one 
>>> so you won't have much trouble getting the app itself installed. As far as 
>>> what happens inside the virtual machine, that depends on what you install 
>>> there. The virtual machine software is just an emulation of a plain old 
>>> intel PC. So what you install there is only as accessible as a real box 
>>> would be. So if you like speak on linux on a hardware PC then you'll need 
>>> to get it that installed on linux on your virtual PC. That won't change any 
>>> whether you run virtualbox or vmware. Once you're in the guest OS the 
>>> virtualization system is not involved.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/11/14, 5:08 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>> from what i gather isn’t virtual box a pita to use from the command line…. 
>>>> as well, I need the vm to talk using speak or y a s r. So, how does 
>>>> running the vm in a command line help me when i need it’s command line to 
>>>> talk?
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>> deedra waters
>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:42 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Genna mentioned previously in this thread, virtualbox does the same 
>>>>> thing as vmware and is free. The downside is that the GUI is not very 
>>>>> accessible, but you don't really need the GUI as it's all configurable 
>>>>> from terminal. In other words you would use terminal to get virtualbox up 
>>>>> and running with your unix of choice and then you could do what you want 
>>>>> inside that virtual machine. All that said, just remember that OSX is not 
>>>>> Linux. It's based on BSD, which also is not Linux.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/11/14, 3:16 PM, deedra waters wrote:
>>>>>> I like the bratty idea sad though that our display is half defective and 
>>>>>> not fixable. I’m thinking vmware is going to end up being my way to go. 
>>>>>> I just don’t want to pay a small fortune for vmware when all i want is 1 
>>>>>> linux vm that’s useable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The terminal is fine if one has a braille display and can use brltty, 
>>>>>>> for which I know I should write a README but honestly I haven't been 
>>>>>>> able to find time to do it! If nobody else does it first, I truly do 
>>>>>>> plan to eventually. But in my opinion, without brltty, the terminal 
>>>>>>> isn't much fun though it can be used for entering commands without too 
>>>>>>> much trouble. With brltty, I just turn voiceover off if using the 
>>>>>>> terminal for any length of time because I've had issues with terminal 
>>>>>>> crashing and it doesn't seem to happen if voiceover isn't on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did run vmware with linux for a time and it's doable. I also fixed up 
>>>>>>> an old powerpc Mac mini with wheezy for kind of a backup for my linux 
>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Having homebrew and/or Macports does much broaden your options in 
>>>>>>> terminal also.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>>>>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>>>>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>>>>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, deedra waters <dee...@the-brannons.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, first of all i’m more or less happy with  what i got in terms of 
>>>>>>>> the macbook air. it’s portable and light which is good. I was able to 
>>>>>>>> sit in the er for several hours waiting for my turn to see the doctor  
>>>>>>>> and was actually not bored there for once.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had brought the macbook and a usb headset. Usually when i land in 
>>>>>>>> the hospital they end up admitting me because of some of my medical 
>>>>>>>> issues. This time though I wasn’t admitted but had i been i’d have 
>>>>>>>> books at least!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Either way the 10ish hours passed rarely quickly with something to do. 
>>>>>>>> I was really annoyed the fact that i couldn’t get my media i’d brought 
>>>>>>>> to play for the life of me…. Instead i watched episodes of days of our 
>>>>>>>> lives from the iTunes store *snicker*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From a linux point of view though things are quite different. for 
>>>>>>>> example tail -n 50 doesn’t work across platforms in terms of the mac 
>>>>>>>> and linux with the mac you have to type something like tail -50 to get 
>>>>>>>> what  you want. Little things like that ended up requiring the 
>>>>>>>> linux/unix skills of my fiancé to get certain of my scripts and some 
>>>>>>>> other python tools to work properly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’m highly unsatisfied with the  terminal though I mean it does simple 
>>>>>>>> mac type things fine and works well enough for that but unless i buy 
>>>>>>>> vmware fusion or unless there’s a cheaper way of getting a linux vm up 
>>>>>>>> and running for those tasks that just don’t do well in the mac terminal
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The speech interrupts  are highly annoying in the terminal i’d kill 
>>>>>>>> for a way to turn those off and on. I also ended up buying a few apps 
>>>>>>>> that just make things simpler for me. Take the my medical app. With as 
>>>>>>>> sick as i am, that app is almost a needed thing. I’ve been working to 
>>>>>>>> get  as much of my medical records as possible put into the app so 
>>>>>>>> that way if worse comes to worse all i have to do is turn voiceover 
>>>>>>>> off, they should be able to access and read the info then give the 
>>>>>>>> thing back to me. In theory at least it sounds like a great idea. I’m 
>>>>>>>> probably going to have to find a way of getting the data to export to 
>>>>>>>> a readable format such as pdf for them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mac journal i also found useful for several things.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Over all, i like what i got. I still have a ton to learn but i think 
>>>>>>>> that that will come with time and practice. Now to hunt down iTunes 
>>>>>>>> podcasts.:)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> deedra waters
>>>>>>>> dee...@the-brannons.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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